1.5 million people vaccinated already - brilliant!

[buttery81]

They’ve vaccinated 1.5 million people so far and the target is 13.9 million people (the top 4 groups in the attached graphic) by the middle of February, according to ITV. It’ll be a fantastic achievement if they can hit that target.

The government will be providing daily updates on the vaccine rollout progress from Monday 11th January.

It’s such a relief that they’ve got this vaccine and are rolling it out quickly across the country. Considering that it’s only 8th January today, I truly feel like 13.9 million by mid February is achievable.

Come on, let’s do this!

I wonder why it has slowed down. Too early for it to be a trend, though

Supply issues.

@RedToothBrush supply issues have nothing to do with today’s lower figure. According to this BBC article, ministers have said there are enough supplies to vaccinate the four priory groups they’re aiming to do by mid February:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55710758

NHS spox told me today: "There is a reporting lag with some vaccination reporting. Daily publications use provisional data on vaccinations reported by midnight on the date prior to publication."

I guess tomorrow will be the litmus test.

Thanks @FourTeaFallOut - I’m keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow!

And on a positive note, I know today’s figure is lower than we would want, but let’s not forget - 207,000 more people have still been vaccinated!

And among some of the most vulnerable groups too. More lives will be saved from vaccinating 1000 care home residents this week than thousands upon thousands of the worried well in June.

@FourTeaFallOut

And among some of the most vulnerable groups too. More lives will be saved from vaccinating 1000 care home residents this week than thousands upon thousands of the worried well in June.

True

Yeah, actually that was a shitty way for me to phrase it, most of the younger crowd will have the vaccine because they know it might save someone else. It'll be largely selfless. The effect will be the same but I must stop saying the worried well - I think I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder I need to shake off.

My elderly Dad was vaccinated today. He said it was very busy. I really hope he hasn't caught anything during the process. He wore a mask the whole time.

@OverTheRainbowLiesOz

My elderly Dad was vaccinated today. He said it was very busy. I really hope he hasn't caught anything during the process. He wore a mask the whole time.

lovely

My elderly Dad was vaccinated today. He said it was very busy. I really hope he hasn't caught anything during the process. He wore a mask the whole time.

Fantastic news @OverTheRainbowLiesOz!

I know. I'm so relieved. He is 85 with a few health conditions and we have had him wrapped in a bubble for so many months. He knows not to risk anything until after second dose & is following advice to the letter.

@OverTheRainbowLiesOz ah that is amazing. Which jab did he have? My 77 year old dad was done today too . Just such a relief both my parents now done. He said it was like clockwork and super organised. Timers going off. This way. That way. Now out. Go!!!

On the Israel thing - about case numbers. Surely we should not be looking at case numbers but the number of people who have had one dose of vaccine and are hospitalised with severe disease or die. That is going to be the true test. I didn’t think the vaccination has been shown to stop you catching it, just that you get less severe or no symptoms.

@FourTeaFallOut I am with you. More people with first doses please. The Oxford jab results showed that 0% of people who had the first dose - whether a half dose or a full dose - ended up in hospital with severe disease. 0%. Same for Pfizer. Now whats not to like about that. More people with one dose please. The second dose can come a little later.

[quote Blessex]@FourTeaFallOut I am with you. More people with first doses please. The Oxford jab results showed that 0% of people who had the first dose - whether a half dose or a full dose - ended up in hospital with severe disease. 0%. Same for Pfizer. Now whats not to like about that. More people with one dose please. The second dose can come a little later.[/quote]
That is so wonderful is it.

I think we need that put up on billboards

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum I will try and find the article where the director of the Oxford vaccine trial quoted exactly this. Then I understood the dosing strategy. Which of course people in the know would have devised with the correct data.

Here it is. Guardian article. Read below extract.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/08/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-has-70-efficacy-full-trial-data-shows

Prof Sarah Gilbert of Oxford University’s Jenner Institute, who led the research, told the Guardian that people in both dose groups were protected in the trials from severe illness after just one jab.
“I have no qualms about using the high dose/high dose regimen, which is what the majority of people in the trial have had,” she said.
“It’s really important to note that within 21 days of the first vaccination, nobody was admitted to hospital with Covid or had severe Covid and that’s just after one dose – that’s after any one dose in these trials – no admissions to hospital, and that’s a really major result for public health benefits.”

That’s why I am keeping calm.

I have read stuff something saying the oxford vaccine greatly lowers your chances of serious illness and hospitalisation. However it didn't give percentage.

Also I didn't know if the Pfizer was the same.

Fantastic news

Would be great if you can find article

Cross posted

Stunning

yep I read that a while ago which is why I think the dosing strategy is good. Many many more people protected quicker and not getting severe Covid or hospitalised. I also read that the reason they have for the three week top up is only because that’s what they trialled and actually for many vaccines longer intervals actually work better. That goes against instant logic which is why people maybe are worried.

@OverTheRainbowLiesOz

My elderly Dad was vaccinated today. He said it was very busy. I really hope he hasn't caught anything during the process. He wore a mask the whole time.

I do worry about this, I am working at a vaccine clinic and we have so many people in the building, it's insane. Each vaccination room has 4 staff members at any time plus 2 patients (or more if they need someone with them). We have a window open, but the ventilation isn't great. Staff are tested twice weekly and everyone temperature checked, but we just don't have the space to do it completely safely. For most of the cohort we are currently vaccinating, this is the most exposed they have been so far. Queues were 40 minutes long at many points today, with maybe half of that outside but people are pretty close together for long periods. I'm not sure masks are enough, especially with the jew strain.

Yes was reading the other day that the second dose is just like an extra top up. It just adds a little extra to the efficiency and longevity. The first dose gives most the protection.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum and to complete the story here is the Pfizer data I have been quoting. Read below extract and

www.cas.mhra.gov.uk/ViewandAcknowledgment/ViewAttachment.aspx?Attachment_id=103741

Published efficacy between dose 1 and 2 of the Pfizer vaccine was 52.4% (95% CI 29.5-68.4%). Based on the timing of cases accrued in the phase 3 study, most the vaccine failures in the period between doses occurred shortly after vaccination, the period before any immune response is expected. Using data for those cases observed between day 15 and 21, efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 was estimated at 89% (95% CI 52-97%), suggesting that short term protection from dose 1 is very high from day 14 after vaccination. Similar findings were seen with the Moderna mRNA vaccine out to 108 days after the first dose (see Annex A).
The level of protection gained from a single dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine was assessed in an exploratory analysis. Vaccine efficacy from 22 days post dose 1 was 73% (95% CI 48.79-85.76). High protection against hospitalisation was seen from 21 days after dose 1 until two weeks after the second dose, suggesting that a single dose of the AstraZeneca will provide high short-term protection against severe disease. Protective immunity from the first dose likely lasts for a duration of 12 weeks (unpublished data).

With most vaccines an extended interval between the prime and booster doses leads to a better immune response to the booster dose. There is evidence that a longer interval between the first and second doses promotes a stronger immune response with the AstraZeneca vaccine.
There is currently no strong evidence to expect that the immune response from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine would differ substantially from the AstraZeneca and Moderna vaccines.

The second dose is still important to provide longer lasting protection and is expected to be as or more effective when delivered at an interval of 12 weeks from the first dose.

They we are. Some nice bed time reading. Of course these decisions are not taken lightly. Our scientists are top drawer.

Yes they are aren't they

Thank you for posting that. Definitely a very reassuring read .