We are now in disaster mode

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“We are now in disaster medicine mode,” it said.
“We are no longer providing high-standard critical care, because we cannot. While this is far from ideal, it’s the way things are, and the way they have to be for now.”

I see that this means rationing medical care. So those who would have previously been given a chance will now not.

This is really significant!

Link?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/08/the-worst-by-a-cataclysmic-margin-the-race-to-save-the-nhs-from-covid?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

Ah, it's memo from one hospital manager.

It’s not just one hospital manager. It it a reality and it is souls destroying

There have been so many commentators in the last few days saying we were 7-14 days to crisis, plus the official move of putting us to Alert 5 (danger of NHS being overwhelmed in next 21 days)

I am mildly surprised that people have not taken on board what that actually means

And very surprised that some still seek to minimise the united loud evidence of how bad the current reality is

Do not have a serious RTA or other accident, major stroke or heart attack, or have operable cancer diagnosed in the next few weeks. When you think 'don't be silly, I can't do much about that,' turn your thought processes about what you can do. Which is to ease the pandemic pressure by following both the spirit and letter of the guidance and laws, and generally don't be a dick

I was clarifying the vague statement in the OP, not undermining how serious things are in London btw.

@BeakyWinder

Ah, it's memo from one hospital manager.

Every thread has immediate covid denial, like the comment above. I'm sick of it.

I read an article from a junior doctor on HDU in yesterday's Times. It was heartbreaking for doctors and nurses to be put in these positions and having to make such awful decisions, heartbreaking for the patients - some given no chance to recover because their chances are deemed less than for others, to die without goodbyes... even typing this now makes me want to cry.

My youngest son's teacher positive yesterday - small class sent home. Lateral flow shows they are negative and only her (so far) it is spreading like wildfire. Almost 53000 people yesterday tested positive and almost 1200 people died int he UK..... more than in April. Yes it's a disaster

"“Every hospital in north-east London is struggling, some with insufficient oxygen supplies, all with insufficient nursing numbers."
and
"In recent weeks queues of ambulances have built up outside A&E units, each with a patient in the back unable to get into the hospital because staff are already so busy, and each with a crew who cannot answer other 999 calls because they are stuck there, sometimes for hours at a time."

Why is there always a comment trying to play down how bad things are?

Do people not watch the news? Or are some people just compete pricks?

(It's the latter btw)

That is what my son said to me was coming, more or less, two weeks ago.

He’s a doc in ITU and he described it as a war zone.

@scaevola

There have been so many commentators in the last few days saying we were 7-14 days to crisis, plus the official move of putting us to Alert 5 (danger of NHS being overwhelmed in next 21 days)

I am mildly surprised that people have not taken on board what that actually means

And very surprised that some still seek to minimise the united loud evidence of how bad the current reality is

Do not have a serious RTA or other accident, major stroke or heart attack, or have operable cancer diagnosed in the next few weeks. When you think 'don't be silly, I can't do much about that,' turn your thought processes about what you can do. Which is to ease the pandemic pressure by following both the spirit and letter of the guidance and laws, and generally don't be a dick

Well said.

If anyone is in any doubt about the seriousness of the current situation they only have to look at the graphs of hospital emissions and deaths.

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.33967393.1682685734.1610092992-152160248.1581103626

Those curves are going upwards very steeply.

Sorry, was the prick comment for me @Morgan12? The title of this thread is alarming so I clicked it (OP's intention), followed by an anonymous quote that could be from Matt Hancock or Dave from the pub, so I asked for further information and posted so others would know too.

Apologies for trying to reduce any more panicking on these boards than there already is.

I'll carry on being a covid denying Prick now

FFS. Hospital admissions. I typed emissions about 3 times and knew it was wrong but had a senior moment as to the word I was looking for.

I'm in london and it's scary now. Was careful and compliant before, I'm actually worried now and just staying in.

I met a friend for a walk last week and she was saying she's stopped wearing a mask (for very flaky reasons related to not scaring children ), and saying that vitamin D was more effective than the vaccine. It gave me the rage.

This plague of denial is so dangerous.

Notwithstanding the seriousness of the matter but if admissions are very close to April and deaths snapping at April's heels, may I genuinely ask, if in April a similar number of admissions were concentrated in London and other key areas and now they are spread around the country, why did London hospitals cope last time but can't cope now cases?

Hopefully 90% of NHS will be vaccinated in a couple of weeks and sickness rates will diminish significantly and should be doing so already for those who have already had the vaccine.

The stats speak for themselves. Very worrying. Our small Town had a 100 cases this week along with similar figures throughout our local hospitals catchment.

When hospital admissions catch up it is going to be a very difficult situation.

@RosesAndHellebores

Notwithstanding the seriousness of the matter but if admissions are very close to April and deaths snapping at April's heels, may I genuinely ask, if in April a similar number of admissions were concentrated in London and other key areas and now they are spread around the country, why did London hospitals cope last time but can't cope now cases?

Hopefully 90% of NHS will be vaccinated in a couple of weeks and sickness rates will diminish significantly and should be doing so already for those who have already had the vaccine.

My understanding is that admissions are much higher than April and deaths will be soon too.

@RosesAndHellebores I guess it isbecause they shut up shop and discharged elderly untested patients to care homes.

@BeakyWinder

Ah, it's memo from one hospital manager.

Yeah, fuck all to worry about

I should have said, that there are more patients in hospital rather than more hospital admissions. Presumably patients are surviving for longer. Whilst this is obviously good news, I wonder if it means some of the deaths aren't appearing official statistics (if people are dying after 28 days)

My partners icu is overwhelmed, doctors and consultants are doing the jobs of nurses, my partner is a nurse and has been trained to ventilate patients, when normally a doctors job! People are dieing waiting for ventilators