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800 patients A DAY being admitted to London hospitals with Covid

97 replies

Myshinynewname2021 · 07/01/2021 17:52

Official figures from the NHS. Meanwhile stupid people are protesting outside hospitals calling it a hoax and other people are busy on social media telling others it's a con and the vaccine is highly dangerous.

And other stupid people are blaming the government. It makes me despair I'm afraid. People are their own worst enemies.

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Babyroobs · 08/01/2021 00:46

@dottiedaisee

So I have just got home after working an extra shift at the care home I work at! Stats now 2residents died on the 5th 4 residents died on the 6th 2 residents died 7th ...truly heartbreaking,absolutely none of them had poor quality of life. Am back to work tomorrow pm and am expecting 2 residents to not be alive by then . They were all active beautiful old people who should have had a good quality of life for a much longer time 😣
This is heart breaking to read and must be so difficult for you care workers.
MadameBlobby · 08/01/2021 00:47

Meanwhile stupid people are protesting outside hospitals calling it a hoax and other people are busy on social media telling others it's a con and the vaccine is highly dangerous

High time that shite was made a criminal offence

SheilaWilcox · 08/01/2021 00:49

@switchitup99

I blame the Government. They said you'll be okay at Christmas.

I chose to be alone. My family chose to be alone. We are who we are.

This guy is who this guy is. Boris said he would be okay at Christmas.

Lol - I assumed your first post was a tongue-in-cheek piss take, but you're serious!

The situation you describe is in no way the governments fault. People have to take personal responsibility.

I hope your friend of a friend recovers well.

MadameBlobby · 08/01/2021 00:53

@switchitup99

A friend told me of a friend today admitted to hospital

Caribbean British, had a big family Christmas with adult children because it is the family way... all went down with Covid before New Year Eve.... Dad, mid 50's, BAME, overweight, diabetic.... now in hospital with the whole family praying......

I hate our Government. This one is on them

Don’t agree sorry

It was open to them to decide not to meet for Christmas. I didn’t see my parents or sister other than at a distance for 10 mins with a mask on to swap presents.

It’s so sad they are infected though and I hope he pulls through. But they can’t blame the government

MadameBlobby · 08/01/2021 00:54

@switchitup99

I blame the Government. They said you'll be okay at Christmas.

I chose to be alone. My family chose to be alone. We are who we are.

This guy is who this guy is. Boris said he would be okay at Christmas.

Boris is a dick but he in no way said we’d be OK at Christmas.
sortmylifeoutplease · 08/01/2021 00:55

@TorringtonDean

I don’t think we’ve got as far as the Christmas deaths yet - it takes two or three weeks before the infected person gets to hospital and then a bit longer sadly for the deaths.

Boris was told about eight weeks before Christmas to put the country in lockdown. He kept putting it off and putting it off. The second lockdown wasn’t a lockdown at all, everyone ignored it.

Offering the prospect of the Christmas window put quite a lot of pressure on people to see family. Then it was taken away in tier 4 but I expect a lot of families would have still gone ahead with plans because of all sorts of pressure from relatives who didn’t want to miss out.

Then the week before schools broke up Gavin Williamson was threatening to sue councils who wanted to close their schools early e.g. Greenwich. That seems madness in view of the figures now.

This. Also instead of saying five days of mixing, Boris could have said wait and see. I also believe that many people went out MORE in early December because of the five day rule that was coming up as they expected a lockdown after it. We personally came out of November's lockdown to isolations from school, just in time for tier four, then lockdown! Some people have behaved appallingly and had no regard for community infection - this element is factored into projections and decisions - the problem is that it is the government who have turned a blind eye to the fucking train wreck we are now in. It was only a few days ago that they put schools into lockdown ...after opening them for one day - as a PP said, it's criminally negligent.

It's like watching a small fairly contained fire burn, waiting for the house to set fire and doing nothing, waiting for the street to set fire and when the whole town is on fire throwing some buckets of water at it, whilst telling everyone they are fireproof buildings! By the time any real support to tackle the fire happens, there is much larger loss of life, larger longer term issues and larger financial costs.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 08/01/2021 01:00

@Fancycrackers

People need to stop blaming the government. Yes this government is slow to act, unable to make any difficult decisions and downright idiotic (eat out to help out! Mix at Christmas!)... But I am sick to the eyeballs at the lack of personal responsibility some people are displaying and arguing the toss that the rules and basic common sense don't apply to them, even during a global, escalating pandemic.

Yes I can tell you the NHS is literally buckling now, especially in London. How about take some personal responsibility and really just stay at home and don't mix unnecessarily.

Well said
sleepwouldbenice · 08/01/2021 01:02

The government in Norway said it would be fine at Xmas
They said the opposite
Jesus

sleepwouldbenice · 08/01/2021 01:02

No way not bloody Norway!!!!

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 08/01/2021 01:13

@sleepwouldbenice

No way not bloody Norway!!!!
Grin
TibetanTerrier · 08/01/2021 01:23

@Ohbabybab
I don’t understand why some people don’t seem to understand that if this carries on there is a very real risk of collapsing the health system

If this past year has shown one thing, it's that vast numbers of people in this country are thick as bricks.

sogi · 08/01/2021 01:45

@TheVanguardSix

At this stage, who is or is not to blame, is irrelevant.

We had a quiet Christmas. Our kids' school didn't have one covid case and never had to close. DH's test came back positive on the 28th of December. He is a frontline worker and likely got it from face to face contact with patients on the 23rd, his last day of work before Christmas. He's in hospital now on a CPAP machine. Who do I blame? The patients he came into contact with? Who do they blame? We're on a hiding to nothing if blame becomes our focus.

Sending best wishes for your DH recovery Thanks
MrsFezziwig · 08/01/2021 02:31

Kid are not to blame for this, they've not been in school since 18 Dec, it's not the kids, it's families mixing with their multiple bubbles and having their little Christmas infection parties - what did they expect would happen. Everyone had their one day of fun, all the old people took one for the team, as suspected they would. Genius.

Kids are obviously not to blame (they’re kids) but one of the main causes of transmission which, along with the new variant, has contributed to the current spike has been the situation in schools since they went back and the government’s total refusal to put any proper mitigations in place. So for that I do blame the government (as well as the fools who were so keen that education should continue exactly as it always had that they’ve now succeeded in getting the schools into their current state).

Just about everyone I know toned down their plans for Christmas (or cancelled them altogether). I certainly don’t know of any domestic gatherings that consisted of 30 people all from different families crammed into one room together for seven hours a day.

Bunbunbunny · 08/01/2021 02:45

@TheVanguardSix

At this stage, who is or is not to blame, is irrelevant.

We had a quiet Christmas. Our kids' school didn't have one covid case and never had to close. DH's test came back positive on the 28th of December. He is a frontline worker and likely got it from face to face contact with patients on the 23rd, his last day of work before Christmas. He's in hospital now on a CPAP machine. Who do I blame? The patients he came into contact with? Who do they blame? We're on a hiding to nothing if blame becomes our focus.

Hope you're DH gets well soon and is home quickly
Jeremyironseverything · 08/01/2021 05:56

I have large family xmases normally but it was bloody obvious that that wasn't a good idea this year. Did I hate the sacrifice. Yes. Do I resent people who didn't take personal responsibility, yes.

But equally I blame the government for not doing something about the schools too. I see that they were bowing to parental pressure to keep them open but they should have done blended learning to mitigate things beforehand. Again I resent those people who couldn't see the bigger picture and were baying for them to be kept open as normal, at all costs.

whittystitties · 08/01/2021 06:41

Sorry but it's down to the government. It wasn't ok to mix the day before or after, but one little Chirchillian act had to be done, give the common people Christmas Day.

Anyone with a brain didn't mix, but some people believe the government and hang on its every word, quite a lot of people, hence how they got voted in!

CodyBurns · 08/01/2021 06:57

The schools are closed, everything other than essential shops are shut. Aside from the flip flopping and last minute decision making, government has been really clear that people should not be mixing. We are seeing the predicable explosion in cases following the festive period but those infected on Christmas Day should be symptomatic by now. Any new cases over and above that are people ignoring the rules and continuing to mix.

There is only so much government can do if people are determined to ignore the rules and take their own risk. But they can’t very well expect an ICU bed or even a trolley the way things are going. It’s going to take a complete collapse of our health care system for a lot of people to take this seriously.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 08/01/2021 08:00

@dottiedaisee so heartbreaking.
Hope the poorly ones mentioned on thread recover well .

Skipsurvey · 08/01/2021 08:01

I wonder if it is because back in April people were choosing not to go to hospital, now they have treatments, so they are staying in hospital longer

ILookAtTheFloor · 08/01/2021 08:27

@Skipsurvey

I wonder if it is because back in April people were choosing not to go to hospital, now they have treatments, so they are staying in hospital longer
I think that's a good hypothesis. Also, they can't discharge anyone to a care home if they're still positive (can be for ages) so the bed is blocked until they're negative.

And fewer beds due to social distancing and staff having to self isolate. As well as the pressure to keep other services running this time.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 08/01/2021 08:35

Sick of people blaming the government for all of it. Went to work today (nhs worker) my place of work today is 30 miles from home and the roads were packed. Same as a normal day. Got to the town and there are people everywhere most not wearing any masks. Some lockdown this is!

Louisianna16 · 08/01/2021 08:41

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WindFlower92 · 08/01/2021 08:46

It makes me mad - my SIL is all over fb saying how it's all lies as the corridors are empty - it's like she wants pictures of everyone suffering to believe, and even then she probably won't! Anti-vax and everything, I give up.

Poorlykitten · 08/01/2021 08:47

But the government have been shit as well. People have been shit and the government have been totally useless. Both things are true and quite possibly linked. The whole mask thing was positively frowned on in the beginning. We were told not needed and it wouldn’t help then a direct u turn on that suddenly after number of weeks. Boris should have stressed importance at the start when many other Asian countries knew ( because of sars and various other viruses) that they did help enormously. People have no faith in the government, they do not lead well and consequently many folk (rightly or wrongly) have chosen to ignore advice and just get on with their own life. This is down to lack of clear directives and leadership as he’s not respected now, especially with the DC debacle at Barnard C. It’s a shit show and always has been, right from the start.

Bagelsandbrie · 08/01/2021 08:47

@whittystitties

Sorry but it's down to the government. It wasn't ok to mix the day before or after, but one little Chirchillian act had to be done, give the common people Christmas Day.

Anyone with a brain didn't mix, but some people believe the government and hang on its every word, quite a lot of people, hence how they got voted in!

This.

People aren’t using their common sense anymore.