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Keyworker Provision - Nothing taught in school?

160 replies

Awcw1234 · 05/01/2021 19:46

Kids have a place at school as I’m a keyworker and don’t work from home.

School have informed me that they won’t have access to any of the live lessons and they won’t be doing any of the set work with them. I’ll have to do it all at home with them at the weekend. 5 days of work.

Is that right? I’ve got no choice but to send my children in but feel like my kids are really going to fall behind now!Sad

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Cactusowl · 05/01/2021 19:53

They should be doing the live lessons in school at the very least, that what most schools are doing this time round.

gooseygooseywanderingfree · 05/01/2021 19:55

I wouldn't expect your DCs to have teaching, but I was under the impression that school would be encouraging them to do the work set by the class teachers. Have they explained why they can't access the live lessons?

Gobacktothe90s · 05/01/2021 19:55

Our school was discouraging people sending kids in thinking they would get face to face teaching.
Instead the kids do the same online learning that they would at home which is just coursework and PowerPoints on a computer and support staff supervising them but no teaching.

KatherineOfGaunt · 05/01/2021 19:58

That's ridiculous. I say that as a teacher! This is different to last time: schools should be ready for remote learning and the expectation is that children will still be learning. Do they have no teachers in to teach live? Do they have no computers the KW children can use to access the remote learning? I'd inquire to school at the end of this week, when the dust has settled a little, and find out why and what can be done.

3littlewords · 05/01/2021 19:58

Our school is accessing the online learning via class ipads that's available to the rest of the class at home they'll be supported by TAs i think whilst the teacher is taking the lesson online

Rudolphian · 05/01/2021 20:00

They've told us the kids will be doing the same work as the online provision.
But shes in year 2 . So I assume supervising and helping where needed.

KipperTheFrog · 05/01/2021 20:00

Our school are with their normal teacher, but doing the same work as children are set to do at home.

Awcw1234 · 05/01/2021 20:04

It is a small rural school, they don’t have enough iPads/computers for everyone to access the live lessons. I don’t know whether the headteacher was trying to put me off sending in my kids in by saying all this? She kept reiterating the fact they were open for childcare purposes only. Only support staff will be in, no teachers.

My children are both in primary and I’m very worried about them falling behind. Just don’t know how I’m going to catch up on all the work. All the lessons will be recorded but that is a lot of lessons to catch up on over the weekend. Won’t have time to complete the actual work set Confused

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12098s · 05/01/2021 20:04

Mine are in and will be doing the online set work as the home school DC's. Received a letter today about it.

Hotcuppatea · 05/01/2021 20:07

My son was in school during the last lockdown. He accessed the work that other children did from home, supervised by a TA or teacher. They spent the.rest of the day having a lovely time playing and helping the teachers with displays and such like.

Surely your school has to offer this as a minimum. They can't be disadvantaged by going to school.

Ravenclawlass · 05/01/2021 20:11

That is ridiculous and I say that as a teacher.
We are a large junior school and we are considering ourselves as 2 schools. Those in school are receiving the exact education they would have received without lockdown with their teachers. The children at home will be joining a zoom each morning as a class and then following pre recorded videos that take them through the lesson step by step. In the afternoon we will have teachers available to "zoom triage" with any children or parents needing 1:1 guidance with any of the lessons or questions set. All children at home will get individual feedback on any work sent in and lol children in class will have all work marked as usual.

I can't understand how some schools would use this as an opportunity not to educate their cohort of children. This is just an opportunity to adapt learning so that all children are still making the best possible progress. It's not their fault they can't come to school and are still entitled to us doing a damn good job for them. Whether they're at home or school

You should be complaining to your child's headteacher.

Whatever9999 · 05/01/2021 20:11

My year 6 has a vulnerable child place, they had the live online lesson projected onto the white board in the classroom. He was absolutely fascinated that he could see the rest of his class in their houses via Microsoft teams

Awcw1234 · 05/01/2021 20:12

I don’t know, I didn’t have to use the KW provision last time as I was off work. Last time though, I know all the children were grouped together in the hall as there was on around 20 kids and not all in on the same days. They spent their days colouring in, playing games and doing PE.

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TheFallenMadonna · 05/01/2021 20:13

The guidance from our LA is that in school provision should be equivalent to that accessed remotely.

OhBaublesBaubles · 05/01/2021 20:13

They won't fall behind that much I promise you. If you read to them at home or get them to read to you daily that's the main thing. A bit of basic maths when you can and they'll be fine.

BloggersBlog · 05/01/2021 20:16

I think schools are trying to get parents to not send their kids in. So dont want to make things like "real school".

Then the school can close, the LAs/teachers/receptionists/caretakers etc etc can stay home and be safe

Just my view obvs

WombatChocolate · 05/01/2021 20:16

I wouldn’t expect the,to have a teacher teaching in front of them...ie just for the key worker children.

I would expect them to have devices and be accessing the online learning the same as those at home.

Nohomemadecandles · 05/01/2021 20:17

Crikey, that's shit!

LaMarschallin · 05/01/2021 20:19

But teachers aren't just there to provide childcare. I've read that here, I'm sure.

KatherineOfGaunt · 05/01/2021 20:19

They're obliged to provide remote learning to continue the curriculum for pupils at home. They are absurdly required to continue the curriculum for those in school! I'd have to say something. Fair enough, no live lessons. But the school should not be placing the burden of remote learning on you at home. That just seems like hours of wasted time when most of the children at home will be accessing it in the school day.

Frustratingly, I can't see that the government have updated their guidance. But I would keep checking if I were you, because somewhere it will give expectations for education for those children in school.

KatherineOfGaunt · 05/01/2021 20:21

@WombatChocolate

I wouldn’t expect the,to have a teacher teaching in front of them...ie just for the key worker children.

I would expect them to have devices and be accessing the online learning the same as those at home.

My school has one year group teacher and TA providing live lessons for those in school, one teacher and TA providing remote learning. It can be done!
chimpandzee · 05/01/2021 20:21

Key worker provision at my DCs school is the same learning as the online assignments for all those at home. There are no actual live online lessons, but 4 hours a day of google classroom work (KS2). I'd be annoyed if they weren't getting any actual learning in school and I wouldn't be doing it at weekends.

ThorFull · 05/01/2021 20:21

I’ve just emailed my children’s school asking just this.

Second guessed myself, assuming they would be taught. But glad I’ve asked for clarification. I’ll push the issue if needed.

I’m a secondary teacher taking a short breather from planning tomorrow’s work. So I appreciate how challenging this is for schools.

But we’re in a very different position this time. Schools have been working so hard to facilitate remote and blended learning. Children in school now, should not be missing out.

itsgettingweird · 05/01/2021 20:22

If it's live why can't they join in?

They should not be disadvantaging your child because you are a KW

cansu · 05/01/2021 20:23

That is ridiculous. Of course they should be doing the work at school. I am a teacher and I honestly can't think of a good reason for this to be the case.

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