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Keyworker Provision - Nothing taught in school?

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Awcw1234 · 05/01/2021 19:46

Kids have a place at school as I’m a keyworker and don’t work from home.

School have informed me that they won’t have access to any of the live lessons and they won’t be doing any of the set work with them. I’ll have to do it all at home with them at the weekend. 5 days of work.

Is that right? I’ve got no choice but to send my children in but feel like my kids are really going to fall behind now!Sad

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Benjispruce2 · 06/01/2021 20:33

So they don’t need individual computers. They work in an exercise book.

NoSquirrels · 06/01/2021 20:42

@caringcarer

Well I posted the.link to Government website where it states this. It even suggests OFSTED will be policing this and parents should complain to OFSTED if their child's school does not teach it's 3 hours (primary) and 5 hours (secondary). Don't shoot the messenger. If a teacher uses white boards this can go out on Teams and key worker and vulnerable children sit in lesson also watching teacher on whiteboard/can hear what teacher days. The children in Room would not need a devise to see/ hear teacher. I don't see why you.need separate teachers got teaching children in school and at home. Normal teachers could teach normal lessons/sets on Teams and vulnerable/key worker children just sit in correct lesson for them.
It only works if you have bubbles of each class that would normally be in. So a Year 4 bubble watching in their classroom.

If you have mixed class bubbles (our school will have 3 bubbles), then you cannot use the whiteboard as all mixed lessons.

Staffing is different in different schools.

I cannot sit with my younger DC to log them on at home for live lessons, also supervise my older DC's learning, and WFH on my own stuff. Live lesson teaching is impossible for me and I will be livid if it's introduced, tbh. I can work around logging on for registration, or video lessons uploaded to be done when convenient. I cannot adequately assist my DC to attend a full online lesson schedule. Most people WFH cannot.

Benjispruce2 · 06/01/2021 20:49

We have each class of kw chn in their own class so they’re able to view their own lessons however, several have siblings so the lessons have to be short so parents can connect to the next child’s lesson. So for that reason they are instructional lessons of around 20 mins, then a check-in later.

2020out · 06/01/2021 20:49

@caringcarer

Well I posted the.link to Government website where it states this. It even suggests OFSTED will be policing this and parents should complain to OFSTED if their child's school does not teach it's 3 hours (primary) and 5 hours (secondary). Don't shoot the messenger. If a teacher uses white boards this can go out on Teams and key worker and vulnerable children sit in lesson also watching teacher on whiteboard/can hear what teacher days. The children in Room would not need a devise to see/ hear teacher. I don't see why you.need separate teachers got teaching children in school and at home. Normal teachers could teach normal lessons/sets on Teams and vulnerable/key worker children just sit in correct lesson for them.
It doesn't say 3 hours of live learning.

Teaching isn't normally done anything like we are doing to teach live lessons for home learning.

Kids don't have textbooks at home. This changes things.
Most kids don't have printers at home. This changes things.
Teachers can't see what kids are writing at home. This changes things.
Kids can't work in groups at home. This changes things.
Kids can't see the Teacher's whiteboard at home. This changes things.

If you sat on zoom watching me teach a normal day, you'd learn pretty much nothing.

caringcarer · 06/01/2021 20:57

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/education-secretary-statement-to-parliament-on-national-lockdown

This is from government website. Primary 3 hours and secondary 5 hours.

Benjispruce2 · 06/01/2021 21:07

It’s 3 hours of work, not 3 hours of teaching.

TheFallenMadonna · 06/01/2021 21:10

Ar least some video lessons, which could be school led, or could be from another provider, and Gavin was singing the praises of Oak in that statement. I like Oak. I do use it. I could just put up an hour of Oak every day for my subject. However, I know my students will respond better to shorter video, more practice, personal feedback via Teams. I hope I get to keep it that way.

toocold54 · 06/01/2021 21:27

The children in Room would not need a devise to see/ hear teacher. I don't see why you.need separate teachers got teaching children in school and at home.

This is what is usually done but the teacher can’t teach a class in person for VKW and record it/live stream it for those at home because of safeguarding issues.
So they have to pre-record it/live stream it from home and then everyone accesses it remotely.
And it sounds like this school is providing that but it’s just that they don’t have enough devices so not everyone can access it in school.

I think using the whiteboard is a great idea but this can’t be done in secondary schools due to everyone having different lessons so I wonder if there is something similar happening here where they are in a group of different ages or something.

toocold54 · 06/01/2021 21:30

So for that reason they are instructional lessons of around 20 mins, then a check-in later.

That’s a good idea.
I know a few schools are doing live lessons which is probably better education wise but it must be impossible to join in if you have siblings who also need to use it.

Benjispruce2 · 06/01/2021 22:07

Our school has staggered the live lessons so siblings can use the same device at a different time.

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