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Keyworker Provision - Nothing taught in school?

160 replies

Awcw1234 · 05/01/2021 19:46

Kids have a place at school as I’m a keyworker and don’t work from home.

School have informed me that they won’t have access to any of the live lessons and they won’t be doing any of the set work with them. I’ll have to do it all at home with them at the weekend. 5 days of work.

Is that right? I’ve got no choice but to send my children in but feel like my kids are really going to fall behind now!Sad

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SuperbGorgonzola · 05/01/2021 21:27

This is really odd.

The provision where I teach is supervision while they access the online lessons from their teachers. There won't be any taught lessons as such because they're all in different classes, but they're given everything they need to access the online lessons. As far as I know they're mainly based in the computer suites.

Benjispruce2 · 05/01/2021 21:31

We are linking up to the teacher provided live lessons and TAs will support the keyworker children to complete the work in school.

ineedaholidaynow · 05/01/2021 21:31

Not many village Primary schools have computer suites @SuperbGorgonzola

RamblingFar · 05/01/2021 21:32

My old rural primary school would not have had enough internet available. Even if they had the devices, they wouldn't be able to access on multiple separate devices simultaneously. So it might also depend how rural the school is.

Doublefaced · 05/01/2021 21:33

@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer

Your children have a right to an education.

quite, but as the children who have to stay home are not receiving one in these extreme circumstances, on which planet should they be discriminated whilst the children at school receive normal schooling?

Yeah a good old MN race to the bottom.
BoffinMum · 05/01/2021 21:33

Schooling is breaching its legal obligations and OFSTED would be very interested in the idea that children are going into school but the parents have to do all the actual education at home at the weekends. I would have a quiet word with the Head about this.

Benjispruce2 · 05/01/2021 21:34

We are a village school. No computer suites but we can link to a Zoom lesson or Teams assignment and display to the chn on the Interactive White Board in each classroom. We will listen to the teacher then complete the work. Teacher will link up later to review the work etc.

SuperbGorgonzola · 05/01/2021 21:34

@ineedaholidaynow

Not many village Primary schools have computer suites *@SuperbGorgonzola*
I'm fully aware of that but it doesn't explain why they children are not being given the equivalent work to do in school. There are any number of solutions to that problem.

They shouldn't just be sitting there then expected to work all evenings and weekends to keep up. Poor kids!

Sam1815 · 05/01/2021 21:36

My daughter is in. She is in the classroom as part of the lesson that is recorded and sent to the kids mid morning, the same is repeated for the next lesson and so on. so if you are in school or out of school the teaching is the same.

Also, the 5 local primary schools in the village have all came together to teach the same lessons so it only takes one teacher from one of the schools to plan and deliver that lesson remotely so each teacher should have less planning to do as they rotate as they only need to do one day each. They’ve also come together to order workbooks that are being delivered to the kids. These aren’t part of the same academy or ownership, it’s just a really nice area and have very down to earth teachers and head teachers who are happy to work together for the greater good of the kids. It also means the full village had standardised education as its being delivered to all kids of a certain age group in the area regardless of which school they are in.

Wildcat22 · 05/01/2021 21:37

My dc primary school is teachers taking online lessons from home and PSA's supervising KW children on a childcare basis only within school :( As a parent I would rather my children were at home but I have to work this time around, it's not fair ,they will be so far behind come Easter!!

MushMonster · 05/01/2021 21:39

What happens if you send your child with your own laptop? Surely they will be able to log in to the lessons? Mine sometimes needs to print work. Not sure if that will be your case. But surely they can help with that is school. I would send them in with notepads and art supplies too.
I know they do not give them extra teaching, but surely they have to make possible for the child to join the online lessons.

Benjispruce2 · 05/01/2021 21:42

Keyworker children shouldn’t be disadvantaged. This did happen in the first lockdown but it was sudden and unforeseen. There is now legislation for remote learning on Gov.UK.

rolliy · 05/01/2021 21:43

Literally just posted on another thread that our school are doing both simultaneously. They stop at around 1.30/2 to allow kids to do the tasks. That's the only bit I can see where those at home may have an advantage.

ineedaholidaynow · 05/01/2021 21:44

Secondary schools allow pupils to bring in their own laptops

Benjispruce2 · 05/01/2021 21:45

When our live lessons end and work is complete, TAs will do creative work, listen to readers, help chn practise spellings etc.

BungleandGeorge · 05/01/2021 21:49

I’m not sure how much live teaching schools are generally planning for KS1? Our work is emailed home but could just as easily be printed off for those in school. The plan is to use TAs mainly for care in school and then the teacher teaches live to all of them, but I’m not sure how much of that there will be. This seems like the fairest option and the most popular. Some one from SLT is available in school. Other activities like reading etc can be done in school. I think I saw that there will be a plan for home learning releases tomorrow

UsernameSaved · 05/01/2021 21:49

@BoffinMum

Schooling is breaching its legal obligations and OFSTED would be very interested in the idea that children are going into school but the parents have to do all the actual education at home at the weekends. I would have a quiet word with the Head about this.
That is tosh

Ofsted would not be interested. It is not a qualifying complaint.

If you have a quiet word quoting Ofsted you will look like an idiot.

Cookiecrisps · 05/01/2021 21:49

All our teachers and TAs have to be in every day. Teachers have set remote learning packs and need to zoom call every child 1:1 at least twice a week to discuss the learning. This means the rest of the time they are teaching keyworker children the normal curriculum (fully resourced interactive lessons) in the classroom. Key workers get the best deal in this sense.

Would be far better / fairer / logical to have blended learning (1 week in 1 week out of school) so all children get access to face to face teaching. The key workers could join the class in their week and the other week they could do the same remote learning as the children not in school but supervised by adults in school.

As the virus is running rampant at the moment, I think the government moved too slowly on this and it will cause certain children to become disadvantaged.

UsernameSaved · 05/01/2021 21:51

@MushMonster

What happens if you send your child with your own laptop? Surely they will be able to log in to the lessons? Mine sometimes needs to print work. Not sure if that will be your case. But surely they can help with that is school. I would send them in with notepads and art supplies too. I know they do not give them extra teaching, but surely they have to make possible for the child to join the online lessons.
Generally you can't connect your own laptop into a school network.
UsernameSaved · 05/01/2021 21:52

@ineedaholidaynow

Secondary schools allow pupils to bring in their own laptops
Only usually when checked and with security software downloaded (or they significantly limit access)
CoffeeRunner · 05/01/2021 21:55

DD’s school have made it very clear that children in school will be doing the same work as those at home.

There will be advantage teaching wise to being in school, but certainly no disadvantage either.

Timeturnerplease · 05/01/2021 22:00

Ours each have a device assigned to them (once we run out non vulnerables will have to provide our own). They are bubbled according to age/numbers (primary) with two TAs per max 15 children. They are supported to access the same home learning on Seesaw as all others, which is mainly pre recorded video lessons. They are also logged onto the two live Zoom sessions a day so they can join in those.

No, they don’t have a teacher all the time but they are supported by experienced staff to access what everyone else has.

Teachers are mostly at home running the Zooms, recording lessons, calling families and responding to each piece of work uploaded.

BungleandGeorge · 05/01/2021 22:10

The kids in school do have a slight advantage in that they have trained staff there for the purpose of looking after them, rather than a parent who is working. I do worry about my children being left unattended with access to the internet, and email which they need to receive the work on, video calls. I’m not complaining at schools because they’re doing their best but maybe we are all thinking that the other children are getting a better deal. I felt incredibly guilty that my primary age child was basically left to it most days. Luckily we had a great teacher who set daily work, enough to ensure that at least 1/2 a day was spent on something useful! Parent guilt!

louisejxxx · 05/01/2021 22:13

That doesn’t seem right to me. My dc’s school has said those that are in school will join in for the live meetings (not completely live lessons - it’s more like a checking in and Q&A session) and will be doing the work set through Teams.

ineedaholidaynow · 05/01/2021 22:16

Wonder if the PTA have any funds to purchase some chrome books/tablets?