Interpretation of travel and exercise

[Doctorwho9]

I’ve got a slot at a National Trust property, intending to have a nice long walk outside.

It’s about 10 miles away (I live in the suburbs of a City).

It’s within my Local Authority area, I don’t have to pass through another.

I feel safer at a place that caps attendance, there is a small park where I live but it’s about the same size as a football pitch, it’s a free for all.

Reasonable to go to this NT place?

@HarrietOh

10 miles is nothing! I have to travel 19 miles back and forth between mine and DPs house.

Can't believe we're back to the 'what if you breakdown/crash' rants

Presumably you have to do that? It's the driving twenty miles when you don't have to that's in question.

When one is walking, one could get knocked down by a car and end up in hospital, just as likely as car accident or breaking down. This could happen outside your house

@WhentheDealGoesDown1

When one is walking, one could get knocked down by a car and end up in hospital, just as likely as car accident or breaking down. This could happen outside your house

I am not seeing the connection. The OP is not walking outside the house they are driving to a NT property 10 miles away. This thread is getting a bit off topic now.

You could be going to the NT property to just have a cup of tea on a bench with a friend-not exercise at all. It's all very grey isn't it.
That isn't allowed though.

So you're saying it's acceptable to run or walk (or presumably cycle) a 10+ mile distance from your house (which would take 1-2 hours each way) but not to drive that distance? (which might take 15 mins).

That really doesn't make sense. It's a bit like when posters were telling us that support bubbles had to be local, and if it was more than half an hour drive they weren't providing support

I see all the self flagellation is about to start, to see the plague off like in ye olden days.

Surely NT properties aren't on the list of places that are permitted to open now?

Do you stop using the stairs for non-essential reasons just in case you trip and break your leg?

God knows nipping upstairs to grab a new novel might result in the paramedics being exposed unnecessarily because of your frivolous trip.

NT properties are open, I might book one if it warms up a bit. I don't recall that Green flag have suspended our membership or given us a refund so we can use them if we break down

@Calmandmeasured1

You could be going to the NT property to just have a cup of tea on a bench with a friend-not exercise at all. It's all very grey isn't it. That isn't allowed though.

Is it not? I have no clue, not even if you sit two metres apart like in the park with one other person?

Don't ya know, the covid is back to going up your arse like last year if you sit down

Presumably the NT have to give some guidance - either they're open and we go or they close and refund.

@WhentheDealGoesDown1

Don't ya know, the covid is back to going up your arse like last year if you sit down

I read that on a thread yesterday, it's a bit chilly for sitting down-you'll get piles.

Ah, but I have my fold up polystyrene square

Are takeaways still open? Thats the draw for dd for a walk at a NT site - the cake 🍰

What do you mean by 'goldplate

Adding to the rules. The UK used to be accused of "goldplating" EU rules rather than copying them out - ie adding to them and making them stricter than they had to be.

@WhentheDealGoesDown1

Don't ya know, the covid is back to going up your arse like last year if you sit down

And remember to clean your shoes when you come in because you might have walked over a bit of ground that someone with covid has walked over and you will get it on your hands, rub your eyes, and get infected.

@Oneofthosedreadfulparents

Is it just me who's bothered by the use of the word 'excuse' in the latest guidelines? I've always interpreted that word as being a more dishonest version of a 'reason' - so 'you should have a good reason', rather than 'a reasonable excuse' would be a more appropriate phrase?

(sorry, didn't mean to derail!)

I think that's standard legal wording and was used in lockdown 1.0 and 2.0

Why?

Any negligible increase in risk is offset by negligible reduction in risk associated with alternative form of exercise. Hospital distribution and services also not being equally distributed means you may travel to the same place anyway unless you've traveled very far, ie not 10m to the local NT

Everything comes with a risk. Not going to the NT place also has risks if you want to be follow the same line of stupidity

@user1497207191 With respect, it does matter what the difference is between legislation and mere guidance. I like to know what my legal rights are and what is enforceable.

@tootyfruitypickle yes takeaways are allowed. I was wondering yesterday how essential it is for me to travel and pick up a chinese from my nearest place which is 8 miles away.

Oooookay then, let's all do WHATEVER THE FUCK we like yet again in this lockdown so there will be another. And another one after that. And then another.

I really need to get off MN - the level of rule swerving is ridiculous.

As I'm sure you're now aware, guidance is to stay local, or your village or town. My area generally has low case numbers, but case numbers in our village have more than doubled in a week. It wouldn't seem right to travel even 2/3 miles away where rates are considerably lower or vice versa, for non essential. I appreciate you'd love a change of scenery, but personally I don't think it's right to go.

The trouble is , those with a brain probably can make a sensible risk assessment and do an activity safely. It’s those that are hard of thinking that see this and think it’s ok to carry on as normal. So unfortunately, the brainy sensible people have to curtail their activities so that the idiots do too .
Although having said that, there’s always idiots that do what they want regardless.

I think tgis time round people are (hopefully!) Using common sense and not aticking rigidly to the "dont leave your local area" bit, like they did in lockdown 1.

I've just been for an hours walk from my front door. Lucky to have some woods and hills here even though I'm in a city.

Lockdown 1 - so busy! Had to stop to let people pass every few metres on some paths. We ended up driving to somewhere about 10 minutes away where it was quieter after a couple of weeks.

Today - pretty much deserted, hardly saw anyone.

So I think a lot of people are driving elsewhere now and not staying local