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So I can't go for 2 walks but I can go to a garden centre

247 replies

AliceAbsolum · 04/01/2021 21:26

Don't understand the once a day rule. Never have. A little afternoon walk keeps me sane.

Moan moan moan.

OP posts:
TimeForLunch · 05/01/2021 09:12

I will go for as many walks as I wish.

Calmandmeasured1 · 05/01/2021 09:12

So we aren’t allowed out for two walks but it appears people can still travel to and from South Africa where there is a new strain that is causing a lot of worry. Figures
I think it is about time we closed our borders to all but freight. We definitely shouldn't allow flights from South Africa at an absolute minimum but considering those from SA could travel to others countries and then on to the UK, we need to just close our borders.

ivykaty44 · 05/01/2021 09:14

My high street this morning is bustling,

Costa open for take away
Two other coffee shops open for take away
3 smallish supermarkets open
Greengrocers open
WHsmiths open
Boots open
Savers open
Robert duos open
Bakery open
Library open
Not much different from yesterday

HeddaGarbled · 05/01/2021 09:16

Glad you’re adding to the footfall?

movingonup20 · 05/01/2021 09:19

Well I for one am glad garden centres are open, we are half way through renovating our garden and need things

movingonup20 · 05/01/2021 09:21

There's a 22 page document on gov.Uk with the full legal rules which aren't quite the same - read them before you moan

PattyPan · 05/01/2021 09:22

Presumably garden centres aren’t being restricted to click and collect so that older people who don’t have the internet can still use them.

Tdaadfb100 · 05/01/2021 09:37

Buy yourself a hi-vis jacket, write ‘COVID warden’ on the back .. and you can wander around all day! And harass others for fun, if you like! 😂

Dowser · 05/01/2021 09:40

@ivykaty44

My high street this morning is bustling,

Costa open for take away
Two other coffee shops open for take away
3 smallish supermarkets open
Greengrocers open
WHsmiths open
Boots open
Savers open
Robert duos open
Bakery open
Library open
Not much different from yesterday

Some libraries are community hubs..my cousin works in one in London and when they went into tier 4 She found she was going into work as they were staying open. Whether she’s working now remains to be seen.
Dowser · 05/01/2021 09:41

Anyway, it doesn’t kick in till midnight tonight.

ComDummings · 05/01/2021 09:45

If it says ‘should not’ it’s a suggestion. If it says ‘must not’ it’s a rule.

Newdonewhugh · 05/01/2021 09:58

Run to the garden centre if you’re that scared of bending the rules. Personally I’ll be breezing out for a walk whenever I wish.

BunnyBoilerRhian · 05/01/2021 10:00

It's a rule in place to try and limit how much we go out and limit the spread of Covid.

We can all take the piss if we want. I could argue I could go for a 12 hour walk and I would be abiding by the rules on my one walk a day and you could go for 10 different 20 minute walks a day but be breaking the rules.

Yes it's daft on paper. Yes the police arent going to shoot you as you depart for your 2nd or 3rd walk of the day but it's about getting on board and doing your bit and limiting what you do and where you go in an attempt to get a grip on this increasingly transmissible virus.

Too many people just want to rip the piss and split hairs on the rules. How about just stopping and thinking if what you do is completely necessary. You don't need to come on here and brag and tell everyone you found a loophole or your special because you're used to running 20 miles 3 times a day, your dog has 25 legs so needs 10 walks a day blah.

We're in the middle of a national emergency. We're all fucked off to fuck with restrictions, guidelines and laws. Just use your common sense. Ask if yourself if you feel the need to flex the rules is it really necessary? Is it necessary for me today? Maybe today you do need to get out twice for a walk because your head is so fucked but if your having a better day tomorrow maybe you don't. Just stop and think. Stop the entitlement attitude. Some days flexing the rules maybe necessary for your circumstances, so take the risk if you so choose (of getting caught, reported, spreading or catching corona, being judged or sneered at by neighbours etc) and do that but you don't need to flex and break every rule every day just because you feel the rules are a piss take.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 05/01/2021 10:12

So what difference does it make if DH goes out for a half hour walk on his own and a half hour walk with me or a one hour walk on his own?

(I know there isn't a one hour limit, this is an example)

BoJoHoNo · 05/01/2021 10:16

Too many people just want to rip the piss and split hairs on the rules. How about just stopping and thinking if what you do is completely necessary. You don't need to come on here and brag and tell everyone you found a loophole or your special because you're used to running 20 miles 3 times a day, your dog has 25 legs so needs 10 walks a day blah.

Odd thing to 'brag' about. I find people are largely explaining their circumstances in the hope of educating others and reducing the nasty curtain twitching and accusations. Trying to reassure others that they can't face legal repercussions if they are, for instances, having a bad time mentally and need to get out of the house more than once a day.

I personally have no issue with just taking one short walk a day with my dog (and neither does he) especially in the shitty weather. Doesn't mean I can't appreciate others might be in a different situation where a second walk is the difference between maintaining some sanity and having a breakdown that needs medical intervention. For example, having a child with complex special needs who needs a lot of outside time to function properly and remain healthy. I'd certainly rather be in my shoes during the lockdown than be facing the latter scenario.

unicornparty · 05/01/2021 10:17

Excellent post bunnyboiler!

Timbucktime · 05/01/2021 10:33

@Calmandmeasured1

calmandmeasured1 that's a fair point. However, garden centres are permitted to stay open! I wonder who will be going to them

@Timbucktime
Quite a lot of people I think, because there will be bugger all else to to.
We aren't meant to be doing anything except staying at home and only leaving our homes when absolutely necessary for one of the permitted reasons.

I didn’t say that I thought that and would be visiting a garden centre. A lot of people will think it though.
cyclingmad · 05/01/2021 10:51

@bunnyboilerrhian

Hahhaah best post so far!

boobot1 · 05/01/2021 11:05

[quote 2020out]@calmandmeasured1 that's a fair point. However, garden centres are permitted to stay open! I wonder who will be going to them Confused[/quote]
Especially in the middle of winter.Hmm

Calmandmeasured1 · 05/01/2021 11:12

Anyway, it doesn’t kick in till midnight tonight.
Did you watch and listen to the announcement? The law comes into effect early hours Wednesday morning but we were instructed that the measures came into effect straight away.

tootyfruitypickle · 05/01/2021 11:21

I’ll have a walk on my own late morning as usual for much needed headspace.

Then will accompany the teenager on a forced hike after school before she’s lost to her devices. That one isn’t headspace !!

Calmandmeasured1 · 05/01/2021 11:21

Calmandmeasured1:
"We aren't meant to be doing anything except staying at home and only leaving our homes when absolutely necessary for one of the permitted reasons."

@Timbucktime
I didn’t say that I thought that and would be visiting a garden centre. A lot of people will think it though
I was stating the fact for the idiots looking for loopholes everyone reading the thread who haven't understood the rules, that we are supposed to be staying home save for the necessary permitted reasons.

AdobeWanKenobi · 05/01/2021 11:40

Especially in the middle of winter.hmm

You do know the middle of winter is an ideal time for moving, planting and maintenance of some plants because they are dormant, right?

Underhisi · 05/01/2021 11:44

"Odd thing to 'brag' about. I find people are largely explaining their circumstances in the hope of educating others and reducing the nasty curtain twitching and accusations. Trying to reassure others that they can't face legal repercussions if they are, for instances, having a bad time mentally and need to get out of the house more than once a day."

This.

I am on forums for parents with disabled children where people are scared that they are going to be arrested or people are going to have a go at them for doing things to keep their child calm or to maintain their own sanity when looking after their severely autistic teenager 24/7 ( and no vulnerable children do not all have places in school before someone states that bollocks again).

There were people being complete arseholes to others in vulnerable situations during the last lockdown and the seem to be starting up again.

RedToothBrush · 05/01/2021 11:45

Especially in the middle of winter.

I've bought pots, seed trays and seeds in the last month. I've also already planted some so they can go into the greenhouse in a couple of months. I could do with some fleece to protect my young plants soon enough too. I've still got a bag of bulbs to plant up. A lot of my seeds say to start sowing in February if you can keep under glass until the last frost.

A lot of plants I can only buy at certain times of year because they aren't in the garden centre year round. The plants are seasonal. I had been eyeing up a winter flowering Daphne at the local garden centre. They are sold out online until next Autumn.

The problem I'm finding generally is that online stuff is selling out at an incredible rate. Its been a problem all year due to the sheer demand. One of the issues with compost is that its heavy and expensive to ship via delivery firms. And plants are not the easiest thing to transport without damage as they are delicate and need light and water so need speedy delivery. Also many garden centres are small independent businesses often in more rural areas, which makes a local delivery service particularly difficult for cost/time taken if doing it with normal staff. The other problem with such seasonal everchanging stock is its quite difficult to manage for an online shop if you are a small independent.

Thus click and collect is a much more reasonable option than expecting garden centres to go to delivery only - but still has issues with seasonality and website management. One of the local places around here has done 'bundles' with unspecified products in. They are pricey and limit what you can get. (Its fine for some people but doesn't meet the demands of all) but its much easier to manage their website.

I think one of the big things here is that the people complaining hardest, don't know a lot about gardening (and certainly don't like it) and haven't thought about reasons why it might have particular problems.

Gardening is something that keeps people occupied and home. It has proven mental health benefits (scientifically studied). And it keeps them fit. Which gives it an edge on many other hobbies in terms of how its useful and can be justifed.

It also has certain obstacles in the sense that you can't delay planting certain things otherwise youve missed your opportunity for the whole year (and if thats food your growing thats an issue).

TBH though because there are so many 'tourists' at the garden centre because they are simply bored and want to browse, I've tried to avoid them since October. I went last month, but went at an off peak time to avoid as many people as possible.

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