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Teachers...are kids actually expected to properly remote learn this time?

196 replies

WallopDollop · 04/01/2021 20:54

Genuine question... Is this going to be different to the last lockdown in terms of remote learning?

I know things were different at different schools but last time it very much felt like if they do the work they do it, if they don't they don't 🤷 and to be quite honest, a lot of the time ours didn't do any school work except a few online maths /English games for an hour or so.

Will this time be different in that will they be expected to actually complete proper work, will they be marked as absent if they don't etc...?

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SoDiorDarling · 04/01/2021 21:26

I hear what you're saying. He has his iPad.

All being well he will sit at the kitchen table and not interrupt my meetings and crack on with his day. We can then have a brew and catch up at 3 when we both finish.

Sorry for being facetious, I'm just dreading it. Well I actually emailed the school saying he will have to start his school day when I finish at 3, they've not responded Blush

AIMD · 04/01/2021 21:27

I have a 6 year old. I won’t be expecting him to be on zoom or teams for hour after hour regardless of what the school sets up. I wouldn’t mind a small amount but I don’t feel it is age approximate for children that age to do virtual learning for hours and hours a day.

I’d rather do 1hr one to one with him myself in which he was engaged than hours on the laptop in a group virtual teaching that he isn’t engaged in.

Ruled · 04/01/2021 21:27

We have all the resources one could ever wish for (this workbook...? these pens...? this craft set...? surely this board game ... will keep them entertained... won't it?), iPad and laptop, desks to work at etc. but it still made no blinking difference.

I'm going to prioritise my (FT) work & their outdoor time over any 'useless shite' Grin this time.

AIMD · 04/01/2021 21:27

Don’t start me on the Oak National Academy either!

Fluffyowl00 · 04/01/2021 21:27

@BogRollBOGOF

I hope it's better than this useless shite from last time.

School has got plans for Teams... Not sure how I put the children in front of it? If I gaffer tape them down to stop them running away, do you think that's OK or will it count as a safeguarding concern? Actually, that would get them in as vulnerable...

I have not got the energy for this. I'm as empty as my 2020 diary.

Lol. Is there an award for this type of parent?!
Mumofoneee · 04/01/2021 21:28

What i plan on doing ( and my departemnt) is uploading recorded lessons during the week, so that students can access them when they can. And then for the final lesson each week I will do a live teams recap and question session. I teach secondary science btw.

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 04/01/2021 21:29

We will be doing a mix of online and printable work. There will be a daily meet where we will do an English or maths activity together. Then the rest will have prerecorded video intros (I am loving looking at my double chin and gurning face!) we are doing as much that is practical as possible. Some work can be submitted into Google classroom and we are asking for photos of work to be emailed where possible and we send back comments about positive aspects and next steps. I do teach year 2. We will also be using Sumdog with set work, phonics videos from Letters and Sounds on You Tube and I have videoed myself reading books for story time. I just hope some of it can be used by those parents who have just been thrown in the deep end.

Andthen · 04/01/2021 21:30

@AIMD

Don’t start me on the Oak National Academy either!
My 11 year old just greeted the news with practically the same response as you!!
LockedDownLil · 04/01/2021 21:30

I’m a parent ichundich but presume it’s because they expect some children not to do the work so it will be going over stuff rather than advancing, to keep a level playing field? This is a primary school.

Morning registration and the reading of the class novel will be via Teams.

Feministicon · 04/01/2021 21:30

@SoDiorDarling

I hear what you're saying. He has his iPad.

All being well he will sit at the kitchen table and not interrupt my meetings and crack on with his day. We can then have a brew and catch up at 3 when we both finish.

Sorry for being facetious, I'm just dreading it. Well I actually emailed the school saying he will have to start his school day when I finish at 3, they've not responded Blush

You didn’t come across that way at all, you are entitled to feel scared, unsure etc Flowers
Feministicon · 04/01/2021 21:31

@Mumofoneee

What i plan on doing ( and my departemnt) is uploading recorded lessons during the week, so that students can access them when they can. And then for the final lesson each week I will do a live teams recap and question session. I teach secondary science btw.
Brilliant idea Smile
Barkleyspaubles · 04/01/2021 21:32

Schools have to track 'engagement' at least weekly. We (until. 8pm.this evening) were Teams teaching 11, 12 and 13 this week with short checking in with Y7 to 10. Then next week Teams for all. Teachers know not everyone has access to a laptop. Try not to worry.

ineedaholidaynow · 04/01/2021 21:33

Parents complained last time they didn't get enough work.

Now they will complain they have too much.

Poor teachers.

justanotherneighinparadise · 04/01/2021 21:33

What I really LOVE is the end of week catch ups where all the ‘extremely engaged and academic’ students hold up or discuss their work leaving all the less academically gifted children feeling really really shit.

Can’t wait.

VashtaNerada · 04/01/2021 21:33

We got positive feedback from parents last time so won’t be changing all that drastically. The main changes we will implement is to have a couple of short live lessons per week and a greater focus on assessment and ensuring children are accessing learning okay.

GypsyLee · 04/01/2021 21:34

Why are you asking randoms on here to speak for an entire industry.
It's individual to each school. You are better asking at your own dc school.

SushiGo · 04/01/2021 21:34

@Saoirse7

There's a massive expectation that teachers have equipment to provide adequate remote learning.

I and many other teachers are in the fortunate position to own a laptop and not have school aged kids reliant on it. However, many teachers aren't in this situation. So unless they work in school they must have their own technology.

Just out of curiosity, those of you not in education - i.e civil service or government jobs are you provided with technology?

Local gov - yes provided with appropriate tech ie laptops.

OP - I think it's going to be a wait and see. My secondary child isn't doing zoom meetings, but the set up seems reasonable and replicates the school day as closely as they could.

I'm hoping it won't be so strict for primary because I'm really going to struggle to supervise that and work.

justanotherneighinparadise · 04/01/2021 21:34

Extra bingo card points if the academically able kids are sitting in a massive, beautifully decorated room in their stunning houses. We all live to see that.

Lovelydovey · 04/01/2021 21:37

Our academy chain is providing each child with an iPad and our school is one of the pilot schools so all children have a device. This means that we are, this time, getting live teaching on MS Teams for year six and recorded teaching for the other years. This is a million times better than the twinkl worksheets from last time. Children will be expected to submit work - though whether they get any feedback on it will be another thing. We’ve also been promised a weekly phone call - which given I got none last time is a massive step up.

RememberSelfCompassion · 04/01/2021 21:38

Teachers cannot win here.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 04/01/2021 21:39

although it won’t be looked at or marked

Why wouldn't work be looked at or marked? We'd get pretty short shrift if we tried that at our school...

2020out · 04/01/2021 21:40

@SoDiorDarling

This is what I'm really really struggling with. I have a 6 yo who's supposed to be at morning registration via zoom in uniform for lessons. I work from home on said frigging laptop?! Just what am I supposed to do?

Does anyone know? Sad

Contact the school and tell them that you don't have a device the child can use.
Barbie222 · 04/01/2021 21:40

@ineedaholidaynow

Parents complained last time they didn't get enough work.

Now they will complain they have too much.

Poor teachers.

There will be soon be plenty of threads complaining that it's all too much.
Gemma77 · 04/01/2021 21:40

My DS' school have strong expectations for online learning - tomorrow he needs to be online at 8.45am for assembly! His lessons follow his usual timetable including morning registration. They do drop homework during homeschooling which I'm very grateful for... it's hard enough working from home and homeschooling at the same time without having to oversee/help with homework too.

It's great that his school are so on it but I do worry that it's such a lot of screen time.

Not easy for anyone - we'll just muddle through as best we can!

AllWashedOut · 04/01/2021 21:40

Our primary won't use Teams or Zoom or any remote viewing. They provided a good range of material and activities and some online platforms that worked well but needed my constant guidance (7 and 9yo).

There was no accountability because so few students were doing any meaningful amount of work.

I think there is reluctance to connect online because some families won't have equal access to tech and so they don't want to give to some what they can't give to others.

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