Will childminders and nurseries close?

[duploid]

I know nobody will know for sure until Boris speaketh, but anyone have any intel on whether nurseries and childminders will stay open?

(I've searched existing threads and didn't see anything)

W

I just want to say- if there are any other single parents of young children working full time here, with no chance of furlough - I feel sick too. Handhold. If there’s a few of us, maybe we should start a support thread?

Not saying any one persons scenario is worse than another’s of course, but we LPs with no support, full time work and no furlough face a very specific version of the shit time to come, and I know I feel q alone just now.

I'm assuming same as March and no nurseries.

Seriously considering moving in with my parents (retired) so we can both still work and have childcare as we'll be one household, they currently provide some childcare so already part of the same 'bubble' so to speak...

Considering childcare bubble with my mother...would have been really helpful if we’d not gone back to school/nursery after seeing no-one and therefore effectively self isolating over Christmas. We’ll have to wait 2 weeks before I’ll allow my kids near my mother now.

It makes me very worried that they are saying all children.

We have term time only and holiday only contracts. We also have school children attending after school only, when some of the little ones have gone home.

We are potentially looking at the whole lot of them being here at once!

Will we be allowed childcare bubbles then? I’d assumed they’d be cancelled too

The news us currently saying schools - I'm hanging on to that 🙏🙏

I'll be having a childcare bubble whether I'm allowed it or not - working full time with 3 kids (one toddler) will send me and many over the edge

I'm doing what I need to do this time round. 4 year old reception child plus 20 month old and both DH and I in client facing jobs that require us to be available between 9 and 5. I'm not a miracle worker.

@duploid in the last proper lockdown childminders were only allowed to take vulnerable and keyworkers too

@larrythelizard

I'm assuming same as March and no nurseries.

Seriously considering moving in with my parents (retired) so we can both still work and have childcare as we'll be one household, they currently provide some childcare so already part of the same 'bubble' so to speak...

We did this last time. Only way it could work in our situation. This time we are not moving in together but they will do our childcare.

@whatwouldyoudo85 I use both! It such a horrible And stressful situation for everyone.

@Hardbackwriter yes that is a big risk. But if they are exclusive bubbles between 2 households, perhaps that would be still effective in slowly the spread?

However than we get into a situation of haves and have nots, where those who live far from family are being penalised and will suffer big effects of it.

I'm a childminder and to be honest if schools close I will close too whether I have to or not.

@GypsyLee

No, my children do though, and I have one doing A levels. I wouldn't be sending any of my dc to nursery or school.

And you obviously have a job and money to say close for 3 months

@NeurotreeWenceslas

Mine has said not but asked for KW children.

Most of them got it in a big wave in November. They probably feel they've reached herd immunity.

What about this new strain though ?

@whatwouldyoudo85

If they close nurseries and childminders then childcare bubbles should not be allowed.

Then how is my daughter supposed to to do a full time job from home with a toddler

Scotland have closed nurseries
If schools close nurseries will
Fills me with dread as I can work with the 9 year old around but not the 4 year old very easily - they’ve so missed their normal routine over the Christmas holidays I’m glad they’ll have each other but it’s not the same

Really hoping Carrie is bending Boris’ ear right now about early years settings!!
There’s been hardly cases in the nurseries I know of. Surely the risk/benefit of having the younger ones in = parents able to work. I’m on mat leave so don’t necessarily have to send in DD, but for her own mental health I still would. The risk is minimal for preschoolers and she has already missed a month (isolated before Christmas for a family stay that ever happened!).

@OllietheOwl doubt it! They’ll have a live in nanny so won’t understand the realities.

Then how is my daughter supposed to to do a full time job from home with a toddler

The same way that those of us who use childminders/nurseries will be doing it. With great fucking difficulty.

Early years are so important, I hope they will manage to keep them open even if it's with lower numbers.

I can’t decide which way round it’ll be.
Nurseries opened earlier than schools last time (DS went back in June) so it’s conceivable that they won’t close?

@whatwouldyoudo85

Then how is my daughter supposed to to do a full time job from home with a toddler

The same way that those of us who use childminders/nurseries will be doing it. With great fucking difficulty.

She does use a nursery but failing that I will take over regardless

@rosie1959 sure, what you do is up to you. Your daughter is one of the lucky ones though because some of us don't have that option.