This is interesting to look at re school closures

[Sausagessizzling]

www.schoolcovidmap.org.uk

Tells you the case rate in area of school catchment. May be useful for school staff/parents deciding what to do.

787 per 100,000

Within a borough @ 588 per 100,000, just outside M25.

T4, both numbers rising significantly since last week.

Local primary school, apparently opening tomorrow. What madness is this?

Thank you, OP. This is a useful tool as the info I usually look at covers my whole area as opposed to just my town. From using your link I've found out that my town is considerably higher than the other towns in my area which is shocking. A month ago we had 78/100,000 but we're now almost 600/100,000...and rising. My children had completely uninterrupted education from September but i can already see that's not going to be the case this term.

@Positivevibesonlyplease

So interesting - decrease in a week of over 300. This was obviously because schools closed, therefore it doesn’t really help, as they’ll increase massively when pupils go back in.

I am thinking this also, our numbers look like they were from the schools. Going down now. We are proper rural, really spaced out so them going down now makes a lot of sense.

Meanwhile surrounding areas are rising rapidly it seems. But again, it would make sense if schools set this off, that those areas it would still be working its way around.

Not a science person mind. But this seems logical and its baffling how Boris can claim schools are safe, apparently (well, he claims) under the advisement of science people

@Sausagessizzling that is helpful thank you. Mine is in four figures and depressingly dark on the other map.

125 per 100k here... Tier 4. Not concerned about DC going back tomorrow.

[quote AldiAisleofCrap]**@LoudBatPerson* The community infection rate doesn't necessarily translate to the school infection rate.* busy morning Boris bbc and mumsnet.[/quote]

I actually think the infection rate in many schools may well be higher than local community infection rates, but feel free to make weird accusations.....

My area has some of the lowest rates in the country but because we're in Cumbria we've all been lumped in together. We're tier 4 but I have no qualms about sending ds into school.

Thanks for this.
Our numbers are pretty low despite being in tier 4 ( as I suspected) so I have no concerns sending DS to school.

Depends if your school has a catchment area. Ours takes chn from a much wider area, some have low prevalence and others high. Tier 4.

Nearly 500 per hundred thousand. But my town is only around 10000 so am I right in think that only 50 people have covid? Because that seems a fairly insignificant number if all contacts isolating.

My area is 103 per 100000

There are only 60000 living here so God knows how that translates 😶

Several teacher colleagues are sending in their Section 44 letters as I type. What a mess!

250 for the school nearest to where I live (tier 3) and the 180 for where my dc go to school (tier 4) - they’ll be going in.

@Fruitteatime

Nearly 500 per hundred thousand. But my town is only around 10000 so am I right in think that only 50 people have covid? Because that seems a fairly insignificant number if all contacts isolating.

I worked it out like that too, and it sounded MUCH less scary when in proportion.

@WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo

My area is 103 per 100000

There are only 60000 living here so God knows how that translates 😶

It's a statistical measure. If there were 100000 people in your town then you'd expect 103 people to have covid, it's worked out based on how many cases there are.

For example in the census of population you get a rate per 1000 of the population which is generally accurate unless you look at things like bike crime in the Isles of Scilly or drug use in the Orkneys when it was always skewed by small numbers of people living there.

103 per 100000 is a rate of 0.1% so in a population of 60k I'd expect to see around 60 Covid cases.

@Fruitteatime

Nearly 500 per hundred thousand. But my town is only around 10000 so am I right in think that only 50 people have covid? Because that seems a fairly insignificant number if all contacts isolating.

Yes, 50 is right.

I just checked my kids' schools and some of the information is erroneous. Eg it has our borough in Tier 4/Stay at Home when we are Tier 3 High Alert. The numbers are useful though for a sense of relative risk.

[quote ceeveebee]@CoffeeCreamandSugar - on the map for my school it combines the cases and population for all 5 bordering districts (if you click on the info icon it tells you which ones) so perhaps your area is bordered by some areas that have lower rates so bringing the average down?
Anyway it’s not that useful unless it gets the catchment area right, I can see from mine that it is missing one big district.[/quote]
That’ll be what’s happened then. The districts bordering my children’s school district are much lower. It’s just their school district which is one of the worst in East Midlands

I think what this thread shows (and it was the same back in April-July) is that some parts of the country have very very different exposures to Covid.

In my area, there was an increase in transmission in Secondary schools in mid October, but that died down after half term. In December it was the mid 20's that were getting covid and now it is concentrated in the 30s-50s and the really elderly.

If you like fiddling about with information, go to this page and look at the "Cases by specimen date age demographics". If you run your cursor over the infographic you can see the age ranges and incidence per 100k.
You can change the data at the top to "local authority level", but I have linked to the South West.
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=South%20West

In an ideal world I would prefer to leave the individual schools and staff to decide what is best. They are better placed to know the vulnerability of their staff and pupils than an army of keyboard warriors and bureaucrats with their own agendas.

@WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo

My area is 103 per 100000

There are only 60000 living here so God knows how that translates 😶

Do you not understand maths?

539/100k, tier 4. Schools meant to be opening. Parents WhatsApp group talking about ordering this term’s school lunches like everything is normal

500 +

A hundred difference between two schools across the road from each other. Very confusing! It's a bit like those roads with Tier 3 one side and Tier 4 the other.

140/100,000 here so 0.14% that’s risen from 0.01%.
That is why you should not shut ‘all schools’ the risk differs immensely.
The disadvantages to shutting all schools outweighs the advantages IMO. If rates are very high and rising that is a different matter - I but should not be a blanket shut all schools.

Remember that the vast majority of those who contract COVID are not seriously ill, we need perspective.
People who have CEV in immediate family should be allowed to choose not go if they consider that too high a risk., but that should not impact the rest of the school population.

I honestly think that they probably need to vaccinate all teachers sooner rather than later so that removes the argument about it being too risky.. I have CEV close relatives and have not visited them since March - you make your choices ! I would rather that and schools remain open.

Nealry 600 actually.