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NEU tells teachers not to go to work on Monday

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Workyticket · 02/01/2021 13:24

skwawkbox.org/2021/01/02/breaking-union-tells-teachers-not-to-go-to-work-on-monday/

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noblegiraffe · 02/01/2021 15:02

I remember people making masks and scrubs for nurses because they were horrified by the lack of protection. Schools made visors and donated their science and DT goggles to hospitals.

Tootletum · 02/01/2021 15:02

@Juststopswimming

I dont understand people celebrating school closures. This won't be for two weeks. This will be for months. I would be amazed if kids are back by the end of Easter hols. The unions won't allow it. We are talking about an entire generation of kids effectively losing two years of education. It is utterly dire and there is absolutely nothing to be glad about.
Yes exactly this. They're at home until Easter. Gutted for them.
GypsyLee · 02/01/2021 15:02

@Becsim

Actually I don’t want the schools to close at all and yes I expect my children’s school to have them so I can have other key workers and all the vulnerable children (which there are lots at my school) . Unless you’d like my NHS worker husband to take time off...? As they’re his children too. So no, I do think I’m being hypocritical at all.
But they are your kids, not the states. Nobody else's fault, if you and dh are key workers, I suppose you could leave your kids feral if neither of you are prepared to have them.
noblegiraffe · 02/01/2021 15:03

@AnnaForbes

As long as teachers are ok not getting paid.
Section 44 walkout means still getting paid, it's not a strike. It's health and safety legislation available to anyone required to work in an unsafe workplace.
noblegiraffe · 02/01/2021 15:04

Yes exactly this. They're at home until Easter. Gutted for them.

Why aren't you emailing your MP asking them to work with the teaching unions to make schools safer so that they can go back asap?

Or is that too much effort for you?

LaBStar · 02/01/2021 15:05

Am I allowed to say this?

As a parent, I've met some wonderful secondary school teachers, really inspiring and committed people. But as a "profession" I also think they should get over themselves a bit.

With the arrival of books available to all, once you learn to read and write, unless you're on the path to be doing a Physics PhD, the only real education that is valuable IMO is the personal and spiritual.

Am I allowed to say this?

Bubbleballoon · 02/01/2021 15:05

What are the chances of schools not opening? Is this one of those making a stand things but most teachers will still end up going in or is there a high chance they won’t be able to open due to lack of staff? I have friends who are teachers who still seem to think they will have to go in

Seasaltyhair · 02/01/2021 15:06

No. Teachers children should get to be in school if they are campaigning to close them. Sorry that’s massively hypocritical. They shouldn’t be getting special treatment.

If thousands of children are missing out on education then the teachers kids do too. Have it a level playing field. If schools are closed - no online learning, just nothing and the teachers get furloughed.

christinarossetti19 · 02/01/2021 15:06

I'm not intending to be rude, but I'm staggered by the number of people on MN who clearly care deeply about their children's education, but don't seem to know that the government legislated that schools need to provide online learning in the event of school closures in October.

It was all over the national press.

As cantkeepawayforever says, the quality of this will be compromised by the government not fulfilling its promises to provide laptops and other tech to schools with lots of children who don't have these at home and the general chaos of its decision-making.

LaBStar · 02/01/2021 15:07

I am naturally a bit of an autodidact though.

StacySoloman · 02/01/2021 15:07

@LaBStar

Am I allowed to say this?

As a parent, I've met some wonderful secondary school teachers, really inspiring and committed people. But as a "profession" I also think they should get over themselves a bit.

With the arrival of books available to all, once you learn to read and write, unless you're on the path to be doing a Physics PhD, the only real education that is valuable IMO is the personal and spiritual.

Am I allowed to say this?

You're allowed to say any old shite Confused
Soontobe60 · 02/01/2021 15:07

@EmmanuelleMakro

Interesting-I am in the NeU and haven’t received any notification . Would be good if they could inform members before we find out on MN! As it happens, had an email from my HT two days ago telling us not to go into work for the INSET day on Monday. Since numerous schools have inset that day is a pretty empty gesture.
The NEU sent all members an email yesterday (or Thursday!!!) with a link to a Zoom meeting to be held tomorrow to update us with their response. Have you checked your email?
FrippEnos · 02/01/2021 15:07

DrRamsesEmerson

so by your logic they ought to have downed tools and gone home on full pay).

Only if they continued to work from home like teachers did.

SeldomFollowedIt · 02/01/2021 15:08

@Bubbleballoon

Same. Does this really hold substance? All the teachers in my family think it’s just hot air and they will be in.

BatleyTownswomensGuild · 02/01/2021 15:08

On a personal level, bugger. But it is the right thing to do at this point.

Exactly this

christinarossetti19 · 02/01/2021 15:08

@Seasaltyhair

No. Teachers children should get to be in school if they are campaigning to close them. Sorry that’s massively hypocritical. They shouldn’t be getting special treatment.

If thousands of children are missing out on education then the teachers kids do too. Have it a level playing field. If schools are closed - no online learning, just nothing and the teachers get furloughed.

Teachers are campaigning for the government to work with them and PHE to make schools as covid-safe as possible, so that they can open safely.

And provide online learning in the meantime.

But you think that closing schools with no provision of learning to any children, even those sitting public exams this year, with no provision to provide childcare for vulnerable children or those with keyworkers parents is a better idea?

Really?

Thunderpunt · 02/01/2021 15:08

Thank goodness care workers/care home staff/nurses/HCPs don't have the same sense of self entitlement as many teachers on here. Imagine if they had all decided to walk out in the summer due to 'unsafe working conditions' We would be looking at a much higher death toll I fear.....

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 02/01/2021 15:09

@DrRamsesEmerson how are teachers meant to get on with it? They have no PPE. they are not allowed to wear masks!!

itsgettingweird · 02/01/2021 15:09

@AnnaForbes

As long as teachers are ok not getting paid.
They'd be teaching online.

They won't and shouldn't have to do it for free Hmm

Monkeytennis97 · 02/01/2021 15:09

@Seasaltyhair

No. Teachers children should get to be in school if they are campaigning to close them. Sorry that’s massively hypocritical. They shouldn’t be getting special treatment.

If thousands of children are missing out on education then the teachers kids do too. Have it a level playing field. If schools are closed - no online learning, just nothing and the teachers get furloughed.

I'd be up for furlough. Most teachers I know would be too.
DrRamsesEmerson · 02/01/2021 15:11

@FrippEnos, the amount of work being done by Dad's teacher last spring was invisible to the naked eye. She wasn't unique by any means.

SeldomFollowedIt · 02/01/2021 15:11

@Thunderpunt

My sisters are nurses and would disagree entirely with you. One works in the NHS and has already had her vaccine, and the other one gets tested twice weekly as she manages a care home.

They feel safer at work than what I do (primary TA).

noblegiraffe · 02/01/2021 15:11

Thank goodness care workers/care home staff/nurses/HCPs don't have the same sense of self entitlement as many teachers on here

People were horrified by their working conditions and efforts were made to make them safer.

That's what teachers want too.

Monkeytennis97 · 02/01/2021 15:11

@Thunderpunt

Thank goodness care workers/care home staff/nurses/HCPs don't have the same sense of self entitlement as many teachers on here. Imagine if they had all decided to walk out in the summer due to 'unsafe working conditions' We would be looking at a much higher death toll I fear.....
Schools being open in the unsafe way they have been is creating more transmission and consequently more deaths/issues for the NHS etc etc

We have REPEATEDLY asked for schools to be safer and been shouted down and gaslit to the nth degree.

MarshaBradyo · 02/01/2021 15:12

@Seasaltyhair

No. Teachers children should get to be in school if they are campaigning to close them. Sorry that’s massively hypocritical. They shouldn’t be getting special treatment.

If thousands of children are missing out on education then the teachers kids do too. Have it a level playing field. If schools are closed - no online learning, just nothing and the teachers get furloughed.

Furlough is definitely not the answer

Making it more equitable is a good aim though