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NeverDropYourMoonCup · 03/01/2021 17:02

UNISON are also advising their members that they are not safe in schools and to work from home.

So, we have;

The Headteachers' union trying to make the government substantiate their claim that it's safe because they don't believe it is in direct contradiction of SAGE.
The Teachers' union
At least one of the Support Staff unions (perhaps somebody could confirm for GMB?)

All saying it's not safe.

When do these groups ever agree with one another? They just don't, as their aims/interests almost inherently clash with one another.

It's almost as though they're looking at what is right instead of what is desirable.

Benjispruce2 · 03/01/2021 18:04

Yes GMB.

saraclara · 03/01/2021 18:08

@NeverDropYourMoonCup

UNISON are also advising their members that they are not safe in schools and to work from home.

So, we have;

The Headteachers' union trying to make the government substantiate their claim that it's safe because they don't believe it is in direct contradiction of SAGE.
The Teachers' union
At least one of the Support Staff unions (perhaps somebody could confirm for GMB?)

All saying it's not safe.

When do these groups ever agree with one another? They just don't, as their aims/interests almost inherently clash with one another.

It's almost as though they're looking at what is right instead of what is desirable.

Even the heads of Independent schools have been backing the actions of their state counterparts so far.

This virus has brought together all the education groups that would normally be criticising each others' decisions. I think that speaks volumes.

CayrolBaaaskin · 03/01/2021 18:09

Disgraceful

christinarossetti19 · 03/01/2021 18:13

saraclara yes, yet another 'unprecedented' effect of the pandemic.

LolaSmiles · 03/01/2021 18:42

Even the heads of Independent schools have been backing the actions of their state counterparts so far.

This virus has brought together all the education groups that would normally be criticising each others' decisions. I think that speaks volumes
I didn't realise the independent sector were vocally supporting state colleagues. Good on them.

What's worrying is that SAGE, relevant experts, school leaders, classroom teachers, support staff,unions representing groups who are normally in conflict all in agreement on this issue and all the fools of this world can say is 'yeah but I heard teachers want to close schools and be paid for doing nothing'
It's astounding levels of poor critical thinking.

And as an aside, I would be really interested in how many of them talking about teachers apparently being paid by the taxpayers to do nothing accepted furlough pay

itsgettingweird · 03/01/2021 19:37

Anyone else wondering what Boris and Gavla are doing right now?

Are they sitting there panicking. Ignoring. Or having a meeting to discuss how they didn't think parents and school staff would defy them because they've told us schools are safe.

I sometimes wonder about their mindset and thinking of the general public and I really do wonder how they'll react to this.

Stellaris22 · 03/01/2021 19:39

Honestly? Brainstorming ways to convince the public schools are to blame for the governments inaction and why teachers are selfish for wanting the safe working conditions they've been asking for, for months.

bartymao · 03/01/2021 19:41

@itsgettingweird

Anyone else wondering what Boris and Gavla are doing right now?

Are they sitting there panicking. Ignoring. Or having a meeting to discuss how they didn't think parents and school staff would defy them because they've told us schools are safe.

I sometimes wonder about their mindset and thinking of the general public and I really do wonder how they'll react to this.

Contemplating their navels?

HeronLanyon · 03/01/2021 19:52

They appear to be back in their vacuum/echo chamber while the local authorities, the unions - us, the people, are stepping into their void and know what we need to do and getting it done.
It’s like we are tugging on their lead trying to get them to follow - gave up hoping they would lead a long time ago.
Interesting times !

Katjolo · 03/01/2021 19:58

Well done to the unions. Boris Johnson is not fit to make the necessary decisions.

Stellaris22 · 03/01/2021 20:03

Exactly.

We have reached the point where this government is incapable of taking the actions needed, and unions/schools are having to step in and make these difficult decisions for them.

Disgraceful.

Countdowntonothing · 03/01/2021 20:10

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HoollyWugger · 03/01/2021 20:18

DP's MAT has said that they won't be paid if they don't go in for the INSET day tomorrow.

DrRamsesEmerson · 03/01/2021 20:22

@HoollyWugger

DP's MAT has said that they won't be paid if they don't go in for the INSET day tomorrow.

Well done that MAT. There’s no possible justification for refusing to go to an Inset day.

FrippEnos · 03/01/2021 20:28

DrRamsesEmerson

Well done that MAT. There’s no possible justification for refusing to go to an Inset day.

Except the guidance that says you are supposed to work from home if you can.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 03/01/2021 20:29

@HoollyWugger

DP's MAT has said that they won't be paid if they don't go in for the INSET day tomorrow.

In fairness (and it doesn't come naturally for me where MATs are concerned), the schools are unsafe when there are all the children in them, not when there are just the smaller number of staff there - who generally are more able to follow rules on distancing, hygiene and suchlike. Unless the MAT insists they have a getting back together and trust workshop involving sitting on one another's laps and sharing their hankies.

FrippEnos · 03/01/2021 20:31

NeverDropYourMoonCup

You missed out whole staff meetings that are in one room and not held virtually.

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NeverDropYourMoonCup · 03/01/2021 20:33

@FrippEnos

NeverDropYourMoonCup

You missed out whole staff meetings that are in one room and not held virtually.

Sorry. We have ours in the stage area, so we're all 2m away from one another. When we have them, that is - haven't since September.

If I had to be in a meeting with a batshit MAT member of SLT, I think I'd be tempted to sit close and cough a few times, though.

(Yes, I know I am evil).

FrippEnos · 03/01/2021 20:35

Flippingnightmare

Everyone who sent in the NEU form should get no pay for every day they refuse to work.

Who is refusing to work?

LolaSmiles · 03/01/2021 20:38

You missed out whole staff meetings that are in one room and not held virtually
Crikey. Ours have all been done virtually and there's maximum numbers in all communal spaces.

Everyone who sent in the NEU form should get no pay for every day they refuse to work
Can I assume you're also as strong in your feelings that the government should be making schools safer with proper strategy?
Or are you one of these people who seem to object to people wanting a proper strategy for schools in order to reduce community transmission?

FrippEnos · 03/01/2021 20:40

NeverDropYourMoonCup and LolaSmiles

We have a subset of meetings that seem to always need to be held F2F and in small rooms.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 03/01/2021 20:46

@FrippEnos

NeverDropYourMoonCup and LolaSmiles

We have a subset of meetings that seem to always need to be held F2F and in small rooms.

Can't you put some of your favourite mood music on?

I'm fairly sure that SLT would be making excuses to hold the meetings on the playing field if the alternative is set to a soundtrack of In the Court of the Crimson King.

FrippEnos · 03/01/2021 20:52

NeverDropYourMoonCup

I wish :)