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Why can't they change the school term?

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onedayinthefuture · 01/01/2021 01:06

No one is willing to make a case for a pretty obvious solution. Schools close, bring down infections significantly and get the vaccinations ramped up. The winter was always going to be bad, keep the schools closed throughout January and February. That's 7 weeks that then needs to be made up later in the year. There are MORE than enough weeks in the spring and summer to do this. Cancel exams, the current cohort have had too much disruption this year and last but ensure a fair and proper accountability for exam grades awarded by teachers / exam boards.

I work in a school and don't want to lose my summer holidays but surely this makes sense? Have the kids in school in the warmer months where the virus will be less of a threat. No teachers will need to teach throughout this shutdown. ALL learning will be resumed in the classroom. The online provision causes even more of a gap between rich and poor.

Teachers working to supervise key worker children to be paid extra. Working parents (especially mothers are stuffed I admit, but aren't we anyway).

Socialisation I would argue is more important than education (which can be made up) that's the main issue for kids of all ages. That's my sticking point but in the main most kids are with loving families.

Can anyone tell me what I am missing?

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Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 01/01/2021 19:47

Yes Bringle
As I said, point made, it is a ridiculous statement.

Parents who can’t cope without childcare are not crap, lazy parents.

Teachers who are not willing to be on call 24/7 and give up their free time are not crap, lazy teachers.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 01/01/2021 19:48

TaxTheRatFarms

I’ll remember the inflexibility of the government when it came to providing enough devices for children to work remotely.

I’ll remember the government choosing not to feed hungry children, and due to their cuts schools having to take on more and more pastoral roles - safeguarding, welfare, feeding hungry families during closure.

I’ll remember the faceless bitches on mumsnet who made a hobby out of teacher bashing, despite all of the above being the government’s decisions not teachers’ decisions.

I’ll remember all the lovely emails we got from parents thanking us for making our school as safe as possible and as “normal” as possible.

Without a doubt this.

year5teacher · 01/01/2021 20:09

@HancocksSexTears

There's no argument y to o be won here, it's a pandemic and we all have to rub along, but we, the parents, will remember the inflexibility.
ODFOD. You have absolutely no idea the fucking hoops schools have had to jump through, do you? Not that you would even care to listen.

I will remember people like you who just have to put the fucking boot in to people who have worked as hard as all the other professions you seem to manage not to criticise. Jesus Christ.

cyclingmad · 01/01/2021 20:11

I think its a good proposal, life has changed and we should start being more practical.

If it continues the way it is you cannot have your cake and eat it, expect your kids to get a proper education like normal times.

Time to think of new ideas. If one of them is changing school term isn't that worth it for your kids not to miss out on education and not to feel like they are losing their years.

I really don't get people on here, plenty of threads moaning about how children are missing out on education and an alternative proposal that would mean they wouldn't is suggested and its like no I don't want that either.

Time to face facts, life isn't going back to normal in the short term so either continue as it is now or start compromising

Just because a long time ago it was decided this is how school terms should be well it doesn't mean it has to always stay that way, change can be good

bringle · 01/01/2021 20:13

Yes Bringle
As I said, point made, it is a ridiculous statement.

Parents who can’t cope without childcare are not crap, lazy parents.

Teachers who are not willing to be on call 24/7 and give up their free time are not crap, lazy teachers.

I agree, it's just someone else responded to my reply to you.

bringle · 01/01/2021 20:15

Doesn't make any of this OK.

I never said it was ok

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 01/01/2021 20:16

HancocksSexTears
There's no argument y to o be won here, it's a pandemic and we all have to rub along, but we, the parents, will remember the inflexibility

We, the parents’?
YOU Hancock do not speak for me.
I am a parent and YOU and your crappy opinions have nothing to do with me.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 01/01/2021 20:17

I agree, it's just someone else responded to my reply to you.
Oh ! Sorry Bringle 😅

bringle · 01/01/2021 20:36

👍🏼

FrippEnos · 01/01/2021 20:36

cyclingmad
I think its a good proposal, life has changed and we should start being more practical.

So how do you suggest solving the issues that this will cause?

If you haven't thought that far ahead, please do so.

bringle · 01/01/2021 20:38

Well my primary is now not opening (was one of the London's boroughs not closed) Back to homeschooling for me 😭 Any tips?!

Mousehole10 · 01/01/2021 20:46

@SaltyAF

I assume you'd also be on board with the 33% pay increase if teachers moved to a standard 25 day AL allocation? And of course AL taken at the worker's discretion.
I would absolutely support this, apart from of course all annual leave wouldn't be at the workers discretion, as it also isn't in any other job. All the teachers I know are really hard working, and do work through some holidays and weekends (as do my non-teacher friends too). I get it's annoying always being on the receiving end of complaints that teachers don't work hard, so this would be the perfect solution!
Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 01/01/2021 20:52

I assume you'd also be on board with the 33% pay increase if teachers moved to a standard 25 day AL allocation? And of course AL taken at the worker's discretion

Teachers get statutory PAID AL already.
Any days above that is unpaid.

I don’t understand your point!

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 01/01/2021 20:55

Sorry Salty!
I see what you are saying!
Yes! I’ll take my 25 days in the middle of the Autumn term please! 😇😂

dancinfeet · 01/01/2021 20:57

Absolute no to saturday schools- this would be the death knell for my business (dance school) that relies heavily on classes taking place after school and on saturdays. Already on its knees after restricting class sizes to half the usual number, plus the closures we have had. Saturday schools would mean the end of a lot of small businesses who provide after school enrichment activities for children

SaltyAF · 01/01/2021 21:11

I would absolutely support this, apart from of course all annual leave wouldn't be at the workers discretion, as it also isn't in any other job.

Great, I'll enjoy the pay and pension increase and we'll have a couple of weeks abroad on June when holidays are cheaper. Sorted.

Mousehole10 · 01/01/2021 21:19

@SaltyAF

I would absolutely support this, apart from of course all annual leave wouldn't be at the workers discretion, as it also isn't in any other job.

Great, I'll enjoy the pay and pension increase and we'll have a couple of weeks abroad on June when holidays are cheaper. Sorted.

Yes you should get the pay and pension increase for it! you deserve it. You wouldn't be able to choose annual leave when you want though, in private sector it can be dictated by the employer too, it's not free choice for employees.
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