What's the longest you will put up with restrictions?

[Papatron]

I'm just wondering where people think their breaking point will be with the virus restrictions. If the government extends the furlough scheme beyond April and says we all have to stay locked down, will you obey?
If we're still not free in June or July?
Personally I feel like I could just about take another 3 months maximum.

@RaspberryCoulis

Meaningless phrases such as "as long as it takes to be safe" are not helpful.

Really what these posters mean is "I am happy to go along with whatever the government says, for as long as they say it, and will judge the fuck out of people who won't".

This.

May half term onwards I think will be tolerance level exceeded

@cuppycakey

See my friends and family as much as I want, in groups as big as I want

So you want to dictate what your friends and family do too? It's all about what you want?

Clearly if my friends and family don't want to socialise I will break into their houses and force them to endure my company.

Had my moments of struggling with it all, but I've done it for 9/10 months so will keep going. It's been hard, but I've still had a few laughs along the way, enjoyed walks and seeing friends when I can (all outside).

I think intelligent folk will increasingly weigh up personal risk and do what they think is safe.

Easter. That'll be just over a year that I'll never get back. My child was 4 when all this kicked off, he'll be 6 next spring. Likewise my baby who has spent most his life in lockdown is nearly 1. He's had hardly any socialisation outside the house, crucial to development. The same fucking walks. Grandparents (1 set of which have both had the virus and are absolutely fine yet are 'vulnerable') have missed out on so much. They'll be no money left for the NHS anyway soon if we carry on like this.

I consider myself of average intelligence and I've started to weigh up the costs/benefits of seeking work in a country that is handling this better - the biggest risk seems to be living in the UK, USA, Brazil or Russia!

I will be interested to observe whether Biden can get even a bit of the genie back in the bottle when he takes over. That will show whether we have any hope.

This thread mobile.twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1343910098268282880 explains why waiting for a vaccine is the wrong approach.

@CountessFrog

I think intelligent folk will increasingly weigh up personal risk and do what they think is safe.

Yes I agree with this. And whilst there are ambulances queuing up outside hospitals and there are around 1000 people a day dying with Covid, most intelligent people will be thinking it is safer to abide by the restrictions.

For some people compliance with restrictions has become what almost everything seems to be becoming now, a measure of virtue. The most virtuous response is the magic "ALAIT". One of the earlier posters even capitalised the initial letters as they spelled it out to enhance the perceived virtue. When others say they are done with it now, or give a time limit to their compliance the ALAITs love it as they feel a glow of comparative self-righteousness. For one thing this whole thread is in the future tense therefore speculative. Do you get more MN points if, for example, you stick 100% to restrictions for 10 months and are then suddenly are knocked over by a bus and killed, or if you do say 18 months then break a restriction then go back to complying?
It is as if life in general and this whole website has become one big virtue-signalling competition. I'm beginning to wonder if people will actually want to see other people even if and when they are allowed to, so vile have many been to each other. Come to think of it, will a new trend emerge where even in a hypothetical and contingent future world with no Covid risk (am putting it that way to stop the Depressors saying "what if it NEVER ends"- already covered don't bother) some people will choose to live as if there were restrictions still in place, and again will they be accumulating further virtue points in the Black Mirror episode that life has become.

I've reached my limit, but not alot we can do except carry on! Even if I thought 'sod it, I'm breaking the rules' there's no where to go and nothing to do, so can't break the rules even if I wanted to! MH will be tested...

As long as it takes.
What choice do we really have if we want to come out of this as well as possible?

We have no choice but to out up with many of the restrictions.....If shops, restaurants, hotels,museums, tourist attractions, theatres are closed then we have to go along with it anyway.....

@onedayinthefuture

And all you as long as it takes sad fucks, what gives you the right to imprison my children any longer. It's criminal.

They are not imprisoned. Spanish children were, UK children never have been confined indoors.

Also 'sad fucks'

I've still got a job so I will be wary of getting into trouble but there must be plenty of people who have nothing left to lose by being disobedient.
Just because people have lost jobs and livelihoods it doesn't mean they have nothing left to lose. They could still lose the lives of friends and relatives.

If I knew people who are openly disobeying the rules and putting the lives or health of others at risk, they would lose my respect, trust, friendship and companionship.

For as long as is necessary.

@Outseyeder

For some people compliance with restrictions has become what almost everything seems to be becoming now, a measure of virtue. The most virtuous response is the magic "ALAIT". One of the earlier posters even capitalised the initial letters as they spelled it out to enhance the perceived virtue. When others say they are done with it now, or give a time limit to their compliance the ALAITs love it as they feel a glow of comparative self-righteousness. For one thing this whole thread is in the future tense therefore speculative. Do you get more MN points if, for example, you stick 100% to restrictions for 10 months and are then suddenly are knocked over by a bus and killed, or if you do say 18 months then break a restriction then go back to complying? It is as if life in general and this whole website has become one big virtue-signalling competition. I'm beginning to wonder if people will actually want to see other people even if and when they are allowed to, so vile have many been to each other. Come to think of it, will a new trend emerge where even in a hypothetical and contingent future world with no Covid risk (am putting it that way to stop the Depressors saying "what if it NEVER ends"- already covered don't bother) some people will choose to live as if there were restrictions still in place, and again will they be accumulating further virtue points in the Black Mirror episode that life has become.

I noticed the capital letters post too. 🤣

It does rather feel like some people love the restrictions almost orgasmic for some to hear the word lock down imposed or more restrictions

As long as it takes - assuming the vaccine programme picks up pace and is effective we are looking at months not years.

And all you as long as it takes sad fucks, what gives you the right to imprison my children any longer. It's criminal
The people who are saying they will comply with the rules set to protect us are not imprisoning your children. No-one is imprisoning your children. Your children can go out to parks and public spaces to exercise. They can go in your garden, if you have one. Many can still go to school or have their holiday extended by only two weeks.

It's criminal.
What crime has been committed? Best call the police then.

I have no problem with restrictions because I've been under my own set of restrictions for the past decade - am mainly house-bound due to health/disability reasons, so theoretically I can go the rest of my life with these restrictions. But I am in a minority!

I can't say but I'm getting close.
Cinema, primark, pubs are shut so I'm unable to access these. If they were open I'd be there right away.
My relationship with my mum (which has been reduced anyway) has got more strained. We are angry but at different people (opposites). So cannot agree and it gets fractious. I'm also concerned she's holding something important back. If we do not physically meet soon we may not have anything left which upsets me.
I can't go all Billy big balls and threaten a date, I know I'll just flip and disobey.

Those saying what choice do we have as we can’t make pubs etc open up. Well we have we do have the choice to see family and friends (if they want to too). That’s all I really care about at the moment. I’m going to be seeing them from March onwards. Everyone I know feels the same, everyone. We are all relatively intelligent people with decent jobs. A mix of working from home and those who have to go in, teachers and NHS. But everyone feels the same, I don’t know one person willing to stick to the rules for longer than that. I think some people on here are going to be a bit surprised come spring when the majority of people aren’t prepared to stick to the rules anymore.

@SkySports

It does rather feel like some people love the restrictions almost orgasmic for some to hear the word lock down imposed or more restrictions

This is childish, of course nearly 100% of people want their old freedom back.

@RaspberryCoulis

Meaningless phrases such as "as long as it takes to be safe" are not helpful.

Really what these posters mean is "I am happy to go along with whatever the government says, for as long as they say it, and will judge the fuck out of people who won't".

That’s your (faintly hysterically) interpretation. I’m listening to the scientists and medics - this is a problem, a big one. I’m concerned about covid on a personal level but I’m far more concerned about the fact there is no capacity for other healthcare whilst resources are tied up treating patients in need of immediate attention because of covid and staff are off ill. I’m concerned about staffing levels in infrastructure. A sick workforce fuck the economy just as badly and wider society feels the pain.

Eradicate the virus completely? Get it below a certain level? Vaccinate a certain number of people?

Second two. Those are what’s needed to keep infections within manageable levels for health services. We would never have enough compliance to attempt eradication and this is not a society it could be forced on. I don’t have any particular feelings about eradication because I don’t believe it’s an option.

You're forgetting that the microscopic virus is not the sole problem in our lives. There will come a point where the detrimental effects of lockdown will outweigh the impact of the virus

That’s a bold assumption I have nothing but covid to worry about!?

Besides I subscribe to the belief that all of the ripple effect consequences would be happening regardless of lockdowns/restrictions because of how people behave. It’s unavoidable.

We have the means and opportunity to make sure we’re in the best possible position for recovery and damage limitation is better than uncontrolled carnage.

There’s no getting away from the fact that whatever viewpoint you’re looking at this from, this is a disaster, a drawn out disaster. There are no quick fixes. We know enough from history to know that this will end, whether by design, need or some other unknown, but we’re not without strategies to try and minimise the effects. I don’t believe we’re anywhere near the point of abandoning hope.