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To think they are far too slow

121 replies

Clappingforjoy · 30/12/2020 07:41

The government at putting UK into full lockdown cases are rising rapidly and people are still dying why so much delay.

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CrackALack · 30/12/2020 08:50

I agree it's a fine line. I just think so many people are suffering from absolute tunnel vision at the moment and can't see the other disastrous affects elsewhere this is all having.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 30/12/2020 08:50

Tier 4
Proper social distancing

If only the UK would actually follow the rules

SimonJT · 30/12/2020 08:51

@Clappingforjoy

People take on too much these days massive mortgages car loans no wonder they cant cope in a lockdown
I’m after a few financial tips, how will you be paying your bills on zero income?

I mean, if you can manage without money we all can.

I don’t have a massive mortgage compared to my wages, I have never had a car loan/PCP, funnily enough I still have to pay for utilities and food.

userxx · 30/12/2020 08:52

Vaccine is going to take a long time to roll out they should lockdown until its fully available

🤣🤣

RaspberryCoulis · 30/12/2020 08:52

@Clappingforjoy

People take on too much these days massive mortgages car loans no wonder they cant cope in a lockdown
Fucks sake. You're really not getting it, are you.
CrackALack · 30/12/2020 08:52

@Clappingforjoy

People take on too much these days massive mortgages car loans no wonder they cant cope in a lockdown
Ahh so you're of the 'im alright jack' type.

Okay... Disengaging now.

the80sweregreat · 30/12/2020 08:52

@Thisisworsethananticpated

Tier 4 Proper social distancing

If only the UK would actually follow the rules

They won't follow the rules if the schools are open even if they are moved to tier 4 I can see why too.
CrackALack · 30/12/2020 08:53

I’m after a few financial tips, how will you be paying your bills on zero income?

OP won't be. Because her job won't actually be affected by lockdown hence why it's so easy to pass judgement on others who will.

jillypill · 30/12/2020 08:54

People take on too much these days massive mortgages car loans no wonder they cant cope in a lockdown

and there it is 🙄

MistletoeandGin · 30/12/2020 08:54

@Clappingforjoy

People take on too much these days massive mortgages car loans no wonder they cant cope in a lockdown
Yes, I have a mortgage to house my family. We also need to eat, and heat our house, and pay for other pesky things like council tax, water bills and buy clothes and shoes, Tell me how I can do that with no income?
WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/12/2020 08:56

People take on too much these days massive mortgages car loans no wonder they cant cope in a lockdown

So you're already suggesting that we should roll over and give up completely on any semblance of normal life? People are to blame for wanting a roof over their heads and to be able to travel to work? Sounds like the virus has already squarely beaten us, then.

I may be wrong, but you sound like you're coming from a very privileged position of wealth and comfort if you have an inability to understand why most people don't automatically have somewhere to live outright and all of the basic things they need to live their lives without having to plan and expecting to work in order to pay for them.

jillypill · 30/12/2020 08:59

I think lockdowns do work to reduce spread however you have to weigh up the long term impact on the economy & mental health, educational outcomes etc.

What really pisses me off about people crowing for lockdown is that in order to have that privilege of bunkering down others need to risk their lives to facilitate that or do you not need food delivered or your heating?

TalkinBoutMyyyyyDog · 30/12/2020 09:03

People take on too much these days massive mortgages car loans no wonder they cant cope in a lockdown

It's so stupid when people say stuff like this as well.

Most people live within their means. Their mortgage or car loans or whatever will have been paid for by their salary. Or is no one allowed to spend anything they earn now on housing or cars or holidays or whatever just in case there's a world wide pandemic and we decide to decimate our economy and people's jobs?

It's such a ridiculous thing to say. Of course people have bills to pay. How shocking.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/12/2020 09:07

Exactly. You really do reach a point where from an economic point of view, every job, including private sector is 'key' to keeping us going.

Absolutely spot on. That reminds me of a thread from a while back where some people who lived in Cornwall were complaining that they hated the tourists and wished they would stay away - COVID or no COVID. When told their area depended on the tourists' money to survive, they insisted that they didn't work in tourism, so it didn't matter to them. They just couldn't understand that, if those great many locals whose incomes did hugely depend on tourism suddenly lost that income, how would they possibly be able to use or pay for all of the everyday non-touristy services and businesses (including local taxes) on which the complainers own livelihoods depended?

SycamoreGap · 30/12/2020 09:07

@countrygirl99

No, they should throw resources at rolling out the vaccine. Get the army involved, they are logistics experts. Far more useful than throwing money at destroying jobs
The roll-out of the vaccine is determined by how fast the manufacturers can make it. And also by how willing people are to have it.
jillypill · 30/12/2020 09:10

Reminds me of a thread when someone said if schools closed & people lost their jobs it was tough because you shouldn't have kids if you can't look after them.

ToffeePennie · 30/12/2020 09:12

This year I lost a business. I lost family members and I almost lost my 5 year old son to suicidal depression. At 5 years of age, my boy wanted to kill himself because he thought that the virus was coming for him, he had no friends, he couldn’t see his grandparents (who are always there for him normally) and he felt he had no where to turn but death.
How the fuck anyone can say “we need another lockdown” when the last one almost destroyed a literal baby, is beyond me. For the sake of my sons mental health, no lockdown.
But also for the sake of my family financially. I have finally got to a point where my husband covers the bills, but I can now pay our mortgage and food bills for the month, which means more money is freed to pay back the stupid loans he took out when he was younger and stupid. This is supposed to help our financial burden, but if I can’t work (I’m a private carer) I don’t get paid. So then what do we do? My husband can not afford the mortgage as well as the other bills!?

TalkinBoutMyyyyyDog · 30/12/2020 09:13

@jillypill

Reminds me of a thread when someone said if schools closed & people lost their jobs it was tough because you shouldn't have kids if you can't look after them.
Either said by someone who

A. Doesn't have kids.

B. Is a SAHM with a husband who earns a fair whack in a sector unaffected by Covid.

Confusedandshaken · 30/12/2020 09:14

@Clappingforjoy

The government at putting UK into full lockdown cases are rising rapidly and people are still dying why so much delay.
I don't need the government to announce a full lockdown. I've looked at the data for my area and locked myself down. The last 9 months have shown me that I'm much better at assessing risk than they are!
WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/12/2020 09:15

I’m after a few financial tips, how will you be paying your bills on zero income?

OP won't be. Because her job won't actually be affected by lockdown hence why it's so easy to pass judgement on others who will.

Oh, give it time - eventually it will....

You can only behave and treat others like Bernard Black for so long before you have to finally come to terms with why your bookshop has to close - albeit the customers actually had a large element of personal choice in his case.

OxfordwillsaveusbyFebruary · 30/12/2020 09:17

@Clappingforjoy

Vaccine is going to take a long time to roll out they should lockdown until its fully available
4 years is the current estimate to vaccinate everyone
PandemicPavolova · 30/12/2020 09:19

What I love is the knowledge of medical back up if my dd struggles to breathe as she has on and off a few times over 8 years.
I have been in an overwhelmed hospital, thanking our lucky stars we were able to get in, get a bed and have her in the right place if further help was needed.

I absolutely dread to think what we would do if that support isn't there.

So I don't want school to go back, I don't want unnecessary mixing, it's right to keep places of lower transmission open.

PTW1234 · 30/12/2020 09:21

My family will be financially ruined, likely have to sell the house and maybe up root and move for OH to find alternate work when he loses his specialist job due to another lockdown. Probably south, hundreds of miles away from our families.

But I support a lockdown, the nhs is full to capacity.

userxx · 30/12/2020 09:22

@ToffeePennie Jesus, that's horrific. I hope your little boy is ok now.

Lovemusic33 · 30/12/2020 09:25

Getting a bit fed up with these threads now and people arguing about wether lockdowns work or not.

They do work in the way they were attended to work, they were never meant to get rid of the virus, they are to slow it down and ease the pressure on the NHS, we always knew that whenever lockdown was lifted the virus would spread faster. The difference now is we now have 2 vaccines being rolled out so there is some hope that numbers will eventually reduce and even more hope that death rates will eventually be a lot less (if the elderly are vaccinated first), despite peoples lack of optimism on the vaccine it’s the only hope some of us have right now and I think we should try and be positive.

We have been late in our response to this virus many times, late locking down in spring, late putting restrictions in place for Christmas and probably late again in stopping the fast rising numbers now.

I don’t think the tier system is working, I think people find it unfair as some areas have been in tier 3/4 for a very long time whilst others remain in tier 2, the tiers keep changing and it’s confusing people so many are ignoring it, others are petrified to leave their houses.

There’s no real answer to the situation we are in, people will lose jobs and businesses and people will lose their lives, there’s no win win situation. I’m in the ‘losing job’ club and I’m unsure how I’m going to survive financially, I’m just trying to get through each day whilst battling the black dog and trying to make ends meet so I don’t lose my home. But I am very lucky that I haven’t lost a relative to covid.