If the schools close there should be no pretence that they have switched to "online learning".

[Billie18]

If the schools close they are shut. Schools are not equipped to deliver teaching online. Teachers have not been trained to teach online. Children are not equipped to learn online. The curriculum has not been designed to be taught online. If schools close then children will not be receiving an education. It is dishonest to pretend that they are.

So if the schools close then teachers should be furloughed and children's education should be paused at the point of closure. Closing schools should not be disguised as something it is not. This would allow the damage to continue indefinitely. If schools remain closed for a longer period then teachers should be made redundant so that they are free to do other work. This of course would be terrible and would hopefully not be allowed to happen... But then schools have already not been fully open for nearly a year.

You feeling ok?

Bollocks. Your statement is short sighted, factually incorrect and ill informed.

That's a rather broad set of sweeping declarations!
All schools are not the same, all dc are not the same. Some are able to learn at home, on line, and thrive with it.
So, if those teachers are made redundant, what is the plan when schools reopen?

Actually I kind of agree. It is all a pretence I think.

And all those teachers will come flooding back once the schools reopen, right?

I know the English school system treats them badly but fucking hell, you certainly know how to amp it up!

Totally agree. My children got zero education from their school between march and September. Zero pastoral care too. Their teachers would occasionally post a chirpy message about how they were enjoying gardening/baking/hot housing their own child and that and the occasional link to twinkl were all the contact we had.

Just a quick question what happens when the curriculum is unpaused?

If schools remain closed for a longer period then teachers should be made redundant so that they are free to do other work

You must be devils advocating, surely. Otherwise, the above is dense as mince.

Okay. Good luck year 11 and year 13.

Schools are not equipped to deliver teaching online. Teachers have not been trained to teach online. Children are not equipped to learn online. The curriculum has not been designed to be taught online. If schools close then children will not be receiving an education. It is dishonest to pretend that they are

You are so wrong I don't know where to begin.
Have you been anywhere near a school since March?

Eh? Have you ever seen an online streamed lesson? My son had some amazing ones during the disruption of last term. Yes, it’s not as good as in person teaching but frankly I thought the teachers were bloody amazing.

So if the schools close then teachers should be furloughed and children's education should be paused at the point of closure.

There’s way more to school than education.

The most vulnerable child never stopped going in.
The key workers kids never stopped going in
Lots of schools are now more equipped to teach
If all teachers furloughed who will call and check in on the vulnerable children not being sent in by parents?

Very shot sighted Ill informed and angry post.

Shame on you

Agree that the track record of online learning hasn't been great, but furloughing teachers or making them redundant is not the answer. Proper (pre-recorded) video lessons might be.

Haha yep good one.

Tbh I’d be quite happy to be furloughed, it would be a lot easier than the online teaching, key worker provision plus homeschooling my own dc I had to juggle in lockdown 1.

Good luck unpausing children’s education if you’ve made all the teachers redundant though.

My son's school had a full timetable online with various teaching styles and resources. We actually chose to drop some lessons as found it too much sitting at the dining room table for 6-7 hours a day!
With my experience, I don't agree with your statements but also recognise that many children were not as lucky as my son.

I agree with your first paragraph, but not with the nihilism of the second.

Hi @Billie18 I’ve been doing full online learning with my kids since March (and again as bubbles burst this term). Am I ‘pretending’ the hours I spent making resources, teaching and marking online?

Just because some schools don’t, let’s not assume lots of schools aren’t doing it successfully. We do.

Maybe speak to the head of your school directly and ask what you can do to help them develop online learning.

Why aren't schools able to deliver online? Ok, its definitely not as good but would you rather your kids just had zero education?? Do you even have kids?

From what position are you making these statements? Or are you just attempting to bell weather opinion?

Well my children’s school taught excellently online from March until July. Actually, they covered more ground without the usual school distractions and my children’s attainment levels shot up.

Just because your school might have been shit don’t tar them all with the same brush. Maybe look to moving to a better school or petition the school for better e learning this time.

Not true at all. My children's schools set work online.

However, not all children react the same to online. Mixed reactions in my house, one got on well and was organised and completed all the work. One needed a push but got most of it done, the 3rd was a pain but reluctantly did complete some of it. We prioritised subjects he'd be taking to GCSE.

Well that's a load of defeatist rubbish. Are you seriously suggesting our teachers can't d'Aprano?

My son's school ran a full timetable in the Summer term, 4 or 5 live lessons per day plus a daily pastoral session, without issue. They did a superb job for which I am massively grateful.

Is that the best you could do OP?

I'd take furlough though, and homeschool my own :)