Government apparently considering tier 5?

[Alice190720]

Would this be a lockdown similar to the one in March?

mind boggles even after all we've been through.

Only benefit I can tell from some areas being in tier 5 if that means school closed is if schools can remain open in tier 1/2/3.

Seems ridiculous to being one of these lower tiers where pubs, gyms and non-essential shops are open but your child can't go to school.

Who knows where it might all end.

Unhelpful post- sorry —not sorry—

My DH went to work on Boxing Day and said how many cars were on the motorway, apparently it looked like a normal pre Covid day.
We are in tier 4.
Also all my neighbours had friends around and popping in and out nonstop.

They increased the tiers because there's some opposition by MPs each time they vote to make the new restrictions law and a higher tier is more palatable to them than calling it lockdown - especially if their area escapes the harshest tier.

It's not scaremongering when the government has a track record of leaking stuff to the media so that people blame the media rather than the policy makers.

**My DH went to work on Boxing Day and said how many cars were on the motorway

These posts make me laugh, can be roughly translated to “I was out, and other people were out, but what I was doing was totally in the rules and oh so important but everyone else was breaking the rules”

Not once do people seem to contempt that all these hoards of people on the roads may have been doing exactly the same as them!

Well at least they had the sense to number the tiers in ascending order so they can introduce Tiers 5, 6, 7, whatever.
What a problem they’d have had if Tier 1 was originally the most severe!

See also: GCSE grading systems.

@Crazycatlady83
You can laugh how much you want.
I was not out as I am shielding.
Husband has work as key worker... Imagine even on Boxing Day.
Imagine that...

@vodkaredbullgirl

scaremongering post.

Ridiculous. Can't people discuss the actual situation unfolding around them?

Of course the government are considering tier 5. It’s their job to think about what happens next if the current maximum restrictions don’t effectively suppress the virus, especially the new mutation.

Should have copied us in Ireland. We have Levels one to five. Although I think we had Level four and a half at one stage! There's also talk over here about keeping schools shut for the rest of January although that won't go down too well, as they and the creches, were fully closed from the 13th of March to the last week in August. The creches only opened up again in July I think. Our HSE is as bad as the NHS it's modelled on. Although we did send some ambulance crews up to Northern Ireland a few weeks ago when they were in dire need. We have very low ICU beds per capita here which is worrying.

@WhereToMissToTheStars
Key worker as well, don’t need to imagine it. I’m not more important than anyone else on the road, neither am I the covid police.

@listsandbudgets

What now?

Are they going to shut us in and only allow us out for supervised exercise in batches based on first letter of our surname for an hour at a time and send the military round to leave weekly ration boxes on everyone's doorstep?

A big black cross on the doors of the afflicted?

Compulsory masks as soon as you so much as open the window?

Dread think think what they've got in mind

Don't joke, someone on another thread has suggested we should have rations delivered by the military!

Oh and another suggestion was anyone with covid goes into compulsory quarantine away from home. Saves the paint for the crosses I suppose.

They surely can't shut schools in some areas only, whilst still ploughing ahead with traditional GCSE and A-levels. There's already a massive variation across the country in the education Year 11 and Year 13 have had since March, without chucking in school closures to the mix.

I’m a Senior Manager in an independent school.

We are planning for an on-site / online hybrid model - infection figures as they are plus knowledge of the new strain and we just can’t imagine ‘school as normal’.

We were able to throw money at the issue - I really feel for all the under-resourced schools that can’t.

Of course there is going to be a harder lockdown soon - whether its labelled Tier 5 or whatever - unless the infection numbers show a significant reduction in the next 7-10 days.

Most of Europe is under lockdown. Where I live this means a 24-hour curfew (we are allowed out to buy essentials only and for exercise in our local area), all shops except grocers and chemists are closed, working from home is mandatory where possible, mixing of households is banned. People understand why this is happening and for the most part are getting on with life as best they can. The result is that the infection rate has been falling since mid-November (it is now a quarter of that of the UK) and the number of deaths is falling, even though there is a long way to go before things can return to normal. Vaccination has started and in three weeks time there will be an attempt to test the entire population over a three-day period.

Meanwhile, all Hancock can show for £12 billion spaffed on a programme that has yet to show any results is an increasing number of infections, a health service that is already close to capacity and a vague statement about covid getting out of control.

What he is reluctant to admit is that he and the government have lost control of the situation and that only drastic action will bring the situation back under control.

Tier 5? Tier 4 is already lockdown in all but name

@DanielRicciardosSmile

They surely can't shut schools in some areas only, whilst still ploughing ahead with traditional GCSE and A-levels. There's already a massive variation across the country in the education Year 11 and Year 13 have had since March, without chucking in school closures to the mix.

I agree that would be an issue.

But equally, in January my DC can't go to school where he is in one bubble.

But he can go to after school activities where he mixes with children from 20+ bubbles (including indoor sport, in swimming pools etc). Which also makes no sense if he would be in peril in 1 bubble in school.

Obviously we are not in tier 4 (or 5) but closing his 1 school bubble really is the least of the transmission problems. Plus we could go to the gym, eat out inside etc etc.

School closures in low tier areas doesn't make sense either, except so that everyone suffers lack of education together!

@Crazycatlady83
I travel through 3 counties everyday on the M1 to get to work.
I traveled every day of the lockdown and during the first lockdown the roads were almost completely empty.
There are a lot more cars on the road now, and a lot of the cars I’ve seen this week had 2 or more people in. So unless everyone’s suddenly started carpooling too work.......

@DeadGood mild bemusement is not really getting worked up 😂And I in no way intimated I couldn't get my head around the concept of the number 5

It is all temporary anyway. That red tier 4 area is moving outwards by one county each time, so it is only a couple of tier reviews later that the whole country is in red tier 4. Tier 4 doesn't seem to be working in areas that have been in it for 16 days, so what to do next? Shame they ignored the new variant for weeks and weeks while ensuring everyone kept on spending as much as possible.

Tier 8: beak hoods and great bonfires about town to burn the miasma swirling within the squalid air.

It's The Science. 🐔🔥

Hollyhobbi I am a teacher and live in Dublin . What is your source on the idea that they are considering closing schools until the end of January ? Have heard nothing like that .

@Brighterthansunflowers

Of course the government are considering tier 5. It’s their job to think about what happens next if the current maximum restrictions don’t effectively suppress the virus, especially the new mutation.

Exactly

[quote CeibaTree]@DeadGood mild bemusement is not really getting worked up 😂And I in no way intimated I couldn't get my head around the concept of the number 5 [/quote]
Sorry caiba