To be hopefully that things will be back to normal by April

[Tellmelies65]

I’m convinced things will be mostly back to normal by April. Am in denial?

Not back to normal by April, but the beginning of normal returning.
We've seen regardless of management strategy in both the northern and southern hemispheres that along with regular respiritory illness, Covid 19 rates plummet in the spring weather. While rates are naturally lower, the vaccination programe continues and we'll be in a vastly better position of protecting the most vulnerable demographocs by the time we get to autumn.

There won't be a magic "back to normal" moment, and it may be that the tier system is used to gradually wind down the resteictions.

If nothing else, warmer weather and the mud drying out will make life easier!

I suspect that a lot more outdoor events will be allowed over the summer although they may be more controlled than usual.
We really will be back to normal when big indoor events are back on as usual
The economy can't cope with permanent restrictions... the economy pays for public services including the NHS.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

The American guy, Dr Faucci(?) has just said 2021 will be worse than 2020😭

Well they've got their "Christmas on top of Thanksgiving multi super-spreader event" hump to get through yet.

If we're protecting the medically vulnerable, then who's dying?

I think July-August is a more realistic time frame for life to feel normal - but that could depend on how much we learn about the long term effects of catching covid, how many more dangerous variants we allow to develop by letting it run hot at deaths of 3000 a week, the speed of the vaccine rollout, whether we have a semi-hard lockdown to bring numbers down...

@PrincessNutNuts

It's not just about people dying. Long COVID is main reason we will never return to normal unless and until transmission is prevented.

Letting COVID rip would result in tens of millions of healthy adults and DC left permanently disabled.

Then there are 'mild' cases that result in an extended stay in bed and symptoms like loss of taste and headaches for weeks.

Life has changed permanently. We will all be spending a lot more time in our own homes from now on rather than gallivanting overseas on holidays or to large concerts. In many ways, that is something to celebrate.

It will be weddings and events by zoom in future. We will all need to get used to spendinga lotmore time in our own homes.

Say what?? no more weddings or concerts ever?
What about the bride and groom? Will they attend via zoom from the own (separate) homes?
I think maybe in future more weddings might be over zoom to include people who cant attend in person, due to illness, infirmity, or live too far way.

@LitPeach
Letting COVID rip would result in tens of millions of healthy adults and DC left permanently disabled

Tens of thousands.
OK so the first multiplier of 10 is 20 right? So 20 million? Are you seriously suggesting that a third of the UK population will be disabled by covid? There are zero facts to back this up. At all. If you have them, please share it'll be an illuminating read....

But of course you don't. You just come here screaming nonsense and trying to present it as fact.

Then there are 'mild' cases that result in an extended stay in bed and symptoms like loss of taste and headaches for weeks.

Have you not heard of flu? Or, for that matter, post-viral syndromes?

Honestly you'd think that 2020 had seen the invention of death and disease from the hysterics of some people.

And the definition of "long covid" is covid taking at least 8 weeks to clear.
Not permanent disability. Ffs

@LivinLaVidaLoki

And the definition of "long covid" is covid taking at least 8 weeks to clear. Not permanent disability. Ffs

The ONS defined it as five weeks for reasons I can't really fathom, which meant they said an alarming 20% of Covid sufferers had it - turned out that over half of those just had a cough still after five weeks. By that logic I've had loads of 'long colds'.

Sorry @Hardbackwriter thanks for clarifying x

hardbback DH once had a post viral cough for 6 months.
Doctors weren’t overly concerned or surprised (once they’d ruled out anything serious). It was annoying yes, but not life altering.

‘It's not just about people dying. Long COVID is main reason we will never return to normal unless and until transmission is prevented.

Letting COVID rip would result in tens of millions of healthy adults and DC left permanently disabled.

Then there are 'mild' cases that result in an extended stay in bed and symptoms like loss of taste and headaches for weeks.

Life has changed permanently. We will all be spending a lot more time in our own homes from now on rather than gallivanting overseas on holidays or to large concerts. In many ways, that is something to celebrate’

😂😂😂I’m the worlds biggest gloom monger and have horrible anxiety and even l don’t think like this!!!!

The Plague went, the Spanish flu went. NOTHINGbad or good lasts for ever. Nothing. Everything will change, adapt annd move on as it always does.

Are you seriously saying that in 30 years this will still be happening😂😂won’t advances in Science change anything?!

@HelloMissus

hardbback DH once had a post viral cough for 6 months. Doctors weren’t overly concerned or surprised (once they’d ruled out anything serious). It was annoying yes, but not life altering.

My cousin had measles as a child. Developed encephalitis and lost her hearing.

I've been floored for months by glandular fever.

Why are we behaving like complications from illnesses are a new thing?

@LitPeach

Wow aren’t you the ultimate doom merchant.
Come off it, stop shouting such utter tripe. Where’s your facts?

Long COVID yawn ... the latest scare tactic.
There is always the possibility of post viral symptoms -this is nothing new and no reason to be scare-mongering, but hey, don’t let reality burst your catastrophising.
I had whooping cough a couple of years ago was horrible and lingered for months, but -guess what - the world did not stop as a result...

livin I really don’t know.
And people posting that they feel like they’re dying with Covid but somehow still able to write and post coherently. Oh I couldn’t move except to post on MN, FB and Twitter.
Maybe we so rarely get ill these days, we panic?

@LitPeach

No way will things be anywhere near normal by Easter! In fact, there will be no going back to normal so long as COVID is being transmitted.

Long COVID has the potential to leave millions of healthy adults and DC permanently disabled if the virus is allowed to run unchecked.

I'd also rather myself and my DC were not laid up in bed for days with a temperature and pains even with a mild case

Life has changed forever- restrictions will br in place forever. We will simply not see the kind of large events and concerts again.

Instead of popping round to DM's for coffee, this will be done via zoom from now on I'm afraid.

The sooner people understand this, the better.

No @LitPeach they won’t. Please stop this on every single thread on this board.

Things will go back to how they were. If you don’t like that then please do feel free to stay in your house and do as you please but the rest of us will indeed be going on holidays, to concerts and hugging people as normal.

Oh goodness yes, we should all stay indoors forever in case we get an illness that gives us a headache and means we lose our sense of taste and smell for a few weeks.

FWIW DH and I think we had covid back in March, sure it was unpleasant and I was off work as wiped out for a week, but much less so than the mystery illness (never diagnosed) that I had in Sep 19, or chicken pox which I had in my 20s.

Why it's almost as if certain people disapprove of foreign holidays, concerts and family gatherings and are keen to see the back of them.

NB I'm not diminishing the effects of covid on the elderly or vulnerable- I mean we should go back to enjoying our previous lives once the vaccine has been widely administered to these groups.

Whenever the first stage of vaccines is completed. Once over 50s fine that’s 99% of hospital admission gone.....apparently.

God i hope so, got a baby boy due April 8th and I'm hoping for a little bit of a more normal world, for everyone of course but also a bit selfishly for myself and baby!

[quote LitPeach]@PrincessNutNuts

It's not just about people dying. Long COVID is main reason we will never return to normal unless and until transmission is prevented.

Letting COVID rip would result in tens of millions of healthy adults and DC left permanently disabled.

Then there are 'mild' cases that result in an extended stay in bed and symptoms like loss of taste and headaches for weeks.

Life has changed permanently. We will all be spending a lot more time in our own homes from now on rather than gallivanting overseas on holidays or to large concerts. In many ways, that is something to celebrate.[/quote]
I should make it clear that I am against letting the virus rip.

As everyone sane with normal levels of human empathy is.

[quote LitPeach]@iamusuallybeingunreasonable

Finally someone gets it.

I'm afraid those who think life as it was in 2019 will ever return are deluded.

It will be weddings and events by zoom in future. We will all need to get used to spending a lot more time in our own homes.[/quote]
There’s only one deluded person I see round here.

I see you’re yet to provide any basis for your nonsense or provide responses to anyone questioning it?

@PrincessNutNuts it always amazes me that the counter argument to not wanting harder and tighter and tougher lockdown after lockdown is just letting it rip. Apparently.