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Not a single person following covid rules

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ruby4ever · 26/12/2020 22:45

I kid you not, I know no one in real life that is actually adhering to COVID rules. Everyone on my social media/friends have openly celebrated Xmas yesterday despite majority of them living in tier 4 and mixing up to 8 household in one house. Everyone I know and even those I follow on social media, all got with family and celebrated like any other year. Even today everyone is mixing multiple households. I haven't seen a lot of family members as am scared catching anything and passing it on to my family. I feel like the only people following rules are those on mn!
It's got me annoyed that if everyone else is acting normal and are perfectly fine, not spreading anything then why the hell am I following the rules??? These same people didn't follow the lockdown rules either in March, they still mixed multiple households. There are elderly and vulnerable amongst them and (thankfully) no one has actually caught corona. I myself forget about the virus as I no longer watch the news, except when I go out and see everyone in masks. It's really got me thinking today

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CheeseIsMyVice · 27/12/2020 07:37

I’ve been mainly following the rules, as have most I know. Everyone in the area I’m in seems to be extremely conscientious about the situation. We are also in a relatively low risk/case area but are now plunged into lockdown once more. However, now I am at the point where I am extremely concerned for the mental health well being for a number of my friends, and with that I’m absolutely NOT going to sit by and watch things diminish any further.

The only crisis we are going to soon see is one directly relating to mental health. It’s going to be the silent pandemic which is currently being swept under the carpet by politicians and society in general. But, what’s new?

A friend of mine who is seriously struggling will be coming to mine later. The weather is fucking awful and we aren’t going to hang around outside. She lost her mother to sepsis just a few weeks ago. This was the result of a routine surgery that had been postponed 4 times in the last year. She hadn’t seen her mum all year because of the distance and the travelling restrictions. Her husband has also just lost his job.

In a few days a couple of us are meeting at at an outdoor location with large shelter to visit another friend who has been entirely on her own and is currently going through a very dark period.

Wherever I go , I always wear a mask, wash hands and social distance. I’m happy to do this for as long as it takes for this to be needed. I don’t care if it’s months or years.

But, I will absolutely NEVER let anyone be alone and desperate when they are facing tough times and need support. And if that includes breaking or bending the rules at any point, then the rules can go fuck theirselves.

I realise this makes me a horrendous rule breaking covidiot or whatever you want to call me, but I have experience in a professional capacity this year, of an increasing number of suicides as a direct result of lockdown and the damage this entire situation has done to people’s mental health.

Normalmumandwife · 27/12/2020 07:59

@LaurieFairyCake

Compliance is still over 90% according to the govt

I don't think so. I think most people generally comply but breach when it suits them...we are in tier 3 but literally a few metres from a tier 2 area and the pub/eatery down the road is full of mums having coffee etc from the village where we live plus couples eating out. Totally obvious they are not always from the same household.

Whereas xmas day compliance mixed. People over the road had their kids arrive at midnight having driven all evening and then left the following evening/night. Next door both sides ignored and cars were all parked outside and still there from xmas eve

What hasn't helped ironically is the local police in the tier 2 area vowing to mount boarder patrols, stopping cars and demanding to know why they are coming into the county! Err I live 100 metres away and I always do to be told I'm not allowed now without an excuse!!
Really infuriating as people as where we live the boarder is irrelevant as we all work, socialise and shop in what is tier two in normal times. The police are suggesting we drive 20 miles to the nearest city in tier 3! Handing out loads of Covid tickets which apparently nearly all get overturned as there isn't an offence to come into the country without an excuse but the officers don't seem to realise this.

HeddaGarbled · 27/12/2020 08:26

85% compliance according to the Mail this morning.

Skipsurvey · 27/12/2020 08:27

yep i have, even had lunch in the garden with dm although we could have had her in our house or in her house but we were nervous as she has had half of the vaccine.

Skipsurvey · 27/12/2020 08:29

two of my offspring on the other hand are bending the rules however they are adults

cardswapping · 27/12/2020 08:31

Compliance is not visible since people are home/reducing outing to essentials.

Also there is misinterpretation of the rules. There are still lots of valid reasons to be out of your home (exercise, food, work, childcare arrangement) in T4.

I think people often assume the worse.

MiddlesexGirl · 27/12/2020 08:47

we have no healthcare for other illnesses

Incorrect. I have been receiving surprisingly prompt treatment for an issue that arose during lockdown.

Yes, deaths of non-covid patients which may be attributed to lack of care will make headlines news and whilst extremely unfortunate I doubt they reach the scale of the 80K deaths with covid.

MumOfPsuedoAdult · 27/12/2020 08:58

@HeddaGarbled

85% compliance according to the Mail this morning.
How can they possibly know this?
balzamico · 27/12/2020 08:59

Everyone I know is sticking to the rules. A family with young adults are bending them slightly (meeting friends in the garden rather than the park) but even they are changing their behaviour considerably

3asAbird · 27/12/2020 09:00

Didn't sage say 1st lock down 70% compliance they expected less.

November mockdown i suspect much lower as less workers furloughed and schools open.

Xmas compliance I be amazed if its 50%.
My family Wales and they very down theres no time limit on their lockdown.
It was unfair change rules Xmas tier 4 only in England.
I anticipate looking at social media and locally lots bent the rules.

I guess will show in stats as figures awful in USA after thanksgiving and seems same pattern for them after Xmas as 150million Americans travelled over xmas.

Nerdygirl · 27/12/2020 09:09

We are following the rules but mainly because it’s not that big a deal to follow them and whilst I have my reservations about certain things due to the data that I am seeing until I have gathered enough sources of information I will go with the rules set by the government

Off the back of other freedom of information requests going into hospitals which paint a much lower picture than the media regarding deaths and hospital utilisation I have put my own request in.

twitter.com/alixjoan1/status/1341332974600675329?s=12

EmmanuelleMakro · 27/12/2020 09:10

Most people I know followed the rules religiously in March but aren’t any more because they don’t make sense
Same here.
I am a teacher and share a work room/office with two others and lunch with numerous others and it makes no sense at all that I cannot then go to one of those other colleagues houses dnd sit and chat to them further apart than when in a confined space in school,

I haven’t seen anyone openly posting on SM tho.

Justa47 · 27/12/2020 09:10

@Lupinhere37

Agree. I call it selfish and stupid.
They clearly think it’s their right and are not thinking if the cumulative risk and consequences.

HeddaGarbled · 27/12/2020 09:14

*85% compliance according to the Mail this morning.

How can they possibly know this?*

Polling. Probably more reliable than your mates’ social media.

IHateThesePosts · 27/12/2020 09:15

Most I know have followed the rules, hasn’t seen anyone else over christmas etc. Except two people, who are both the unintelligent, conspiracy theorist types anyway and broadcasting their parties all over social media.

lovelemoncurd · 27/12/2020 09:19

I don't know anyone breaking the rules. Perhaps it's a case that your friends don't reflect your values op?

pinkdinosaursarereal · 27/12/2020 09:22

Christmas was a bit awkward, we were tier 2 so allowed 3 families to bubble and only had plans for Christmas Day at ours. But then tiers changed including my parents going into tier 4, but us and PIL staying in tier 2. My parents literally don't work, or go out and neither do PIL. Both getting online deliveries and only doing walks, not mixing even outside. So yes we broke the new rules and had them all over. I don't care, my mum was devastated thinking she couldn't come, she is very much a rule follower. I had a baby at the start of lockdown as it's been tough, so there is a support bubble option, but we haven't been using it. I could of been having them over every week. They took a risk as we are out working and have a school aged child too. But it doesn't mean we will be doing anything else. My brother however is endlessly asking us to break the rules and see him too, but I've said no.

CallmeAngelGabriel · 27/12/2020 09:23

@grassisjeweled

There'll be a huge spike in early January, just see.
I'm not actually convinced there will be, as whatever mixing some rule-breakers are doing won't be a fraction of what happens when schools are open, so I think one will offset the other.
Calmandmeasured1 · 27/12/2020 09:24

You can't stop people from being stupid. You are only responsible for your own behaviour. I do know one friend who is not adhering to rules (actually sent me a photo of her extended family stuffed into her lounge in tier 3 captioned "I know I'm breaking the rules"). I also have one who I can no longer bear to talk to as she is lovely but a conspiracy theorist. However, the majority of people I know are sticking strictly to the rules and, over Christmas, virtually all have been more strict than the rules allow. Neighbours children are dropping presents off at door in masks and not going in.

It's such a shame that those who don't comply with the rules aren't the ones who end up in hospital. (I don't mean that really though as I wouldn't wish serious illness on anyone. It just seems unfair that it is probably the rule breakers who pass it to the more vulnerable).

TheFairyCaravan · 27/12/2020 09:25

We’re in tier 2 and our neighbour has had her mother up from a Tier 4 area since Christmas Eve. It’s winding me up tbh. We’ve not seen DS2 or DDIL, they’d refused to see anyone because they’re both nurses and have seen so many Covid + patients in the last few weeks. DDIL started with Covid symptoms on Christmas Day but thankfully a test came back negative. There’s 30 nurses off on her unit and 19 off in the A&E where DS2 works.

Splodgetastic · 27/12/2020 09:30

There are so many exemptions that I can imagine that compliance is indeed quite high. However, anecdotally I have heard of people making truly essential journeys being stopped by the police when I could see on Christmas Eve many, many journeys being made. The traffic was horrendous and I doubt most of them were essential. (No, I wasn’t in the traffic.)

Madcats · 27/12/2020 09:34

I am still in tier 2, but we'd been repeatedly been warned that we'd be in tier 3.

Lots of pubs/restaurants haven't bothered to reopen and I think most families are hunkered down/just going out for walks in small groups.

The roads sound very quiet.

JoannaDory · 27/12/2020 09:53

Everyone I know is complying. The only non-compliance I see is groups of teenagers in the park. Tier 4 London.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/12/2020 09:57

All my family and friends are following the rules. Saw no one at Christmas apart from conversations at a distance from doorways.

I find mask wearing in shops inconsistent. I live in a very compliant area, but lots of shop assistants aren’t wearing them, though customers are mainly. I’ve been in 6 or shops in my little area with no shop assistants in masks I’m kind of avoiding those shops now.

KatherineJaneway · 27/12/2020 10:00

Sounds like its the people you know. Most I know are following the rules the best they can.

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