To think people are deluded when they say ‘when this is all over’

[Lannaaa]

Not a conspiracy theorist! At all. But this is never going to be over. It really grates on me when people say this...like there’s a day where suddenly all is ok. This is going to go on for at least another year and will be here in some way or other indefinitely. It makes me sad that people seem to really believe that their freedoms will resume at some point. Maybe many many years down the line but not soon. Not sure where the ‘when this is all over’ even came from?!

No, you are deluded. It will all end eventually but if people are going to act like they have been for another year then they can also join the deluded team.

@BlairCorneliaWaldorf

I think if they close the schools from January that will be a turning point. Putting it bluntly, I think a lot of people will sacrifice their ageing parents for their children to have an education and a life.

Given the vaccine rollout has already begun how do you work that one out ?

Without my crystal ball ....

I reckon we've got a crap couple of months to come up until March but by the summer. Most of the elderly and vulnerable will have had the opportunity to be vaccinated. People will get outdoors more and numbers will go down like they did last summer and things will open up again . There will be a lot of people who are going to still be very cautious but I think opportunities will be back for youngsters to live a normal life again .

You think people will never get their freedoms back ? Here’s a clue - it’s not the people who think they will get their freedoms back at some point who are deluded !

I fucking hope not.

@shinynewapple2020 I’m more thinking if there becomes an issue with the vaccine roll out. They’ve been suspiciously quiet on whether the Oxford vaccine is/isn’t likely to be affective with the new strain. And we really need that vaccine due to the logistical challenges with the pfizer vaccine.

I think it works both ways too though. Pretty sure my parents won’t go another year hardly seeing the grandkids when they may not have that many more years left anyway.

It’ll happen gradually surely?
When sufficient numbers of NHS staff and those vulnerable to the virus are vaccinated, then pressure on hospital beds will drop.
Infection numbers will cease to be as important because they won’t translate into medical need.

And so restrictions will ease. Slowly at first - to be sure. We’ll see non essential shops open. Then pubs - but only in small groups and we’ll still need to T&T. Ditto restaurants.
And more fans will be allowed on stadia.

And mixing indoors will be a matter of voting with our feet. The government can give out rules all they like but once vulnerable family members are vaccinated, you won’t stop them seeing people.

Well depends what is meant by end. I believe the virus will be less virulent towards end of 2021.

However MH effects and impact on jobs, education and physical health will continue throughout our lifetime

Plus there’s been very little detail on the roll out programme and no indication of when the government expects we will have reached sufficient immunity to partially and then fully easy restrictions.

Ohh just let people be optimistic and look forward to doing the things they love. Surely nobody is making any real predictions, it's just about looking ahead to a time where we can be together and do things we miss doing. That will happen again at some point.