Kids more likely to get new strain...

[Ohbabybab]

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN28V2EV

Do you think this will mean school closures?

Funny because lots of other people losing their jobs due to lack of schools was a big fat non issue I seem to remember.

At that time there were few children in hubs and a lot of social distancing going on so quite frankly not what is happening now so fake.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Funny because lots of other people losing their jobs due to lack of schools was a big fat non issue I seem to remember.

schools need teachers.

Yes, they do. I've never disagreed with that.

I teach in a secondary school and schools won’t close in my opinion. Obviously that is only my opinion and I don’t know but since they reopened in September Boris has said many times that keeping schools open is a national priority. I don’t think they will ever fully shut again. Even this staggered return is deceiving - the list of who must return on the 4th and not be staggered means my school has approx 900 students in. So even with a staggered return announcement, the government are ensuring the majority of secondary are in school and all of primary. No need to worry about it as a possibility I don’t think.

Death rates in March-April of wave 1 by occupation, men.

... Women's data in the March-June period.

I don't think teachers are near the top of the list.

I hope when they say teachers that includes all school staff as there are lots of peoples that work in schools thy keep it ticking over

Government are ducking up the vaccine roll out.

I know several home- working nhs staff who are now vaccinated. My DH working in covid ITU hasn’t been offered.

At the point now he’s going to refuse to work unless vaccinated.

Hopefully the unions will step in if the government doesn’t. Households mixing over Christmas (let’s be honest they still are - loads on here have said they will be breaking the rules) and expecting school staff to mix in tiny classrooms of 30+ kids with a more transmittable version of the virus and no PPE? I can’t see schools opening before the end of January.

What age is this referring to?

@sherrystrull

Can anyone stating that teachers are not at anymore risk than any other occupation provide some evidence. I've looked and can only find a graph from may when schools were only open to key workers.

No it doesn’t seem to exist anywhere. Funny that isn’t it as schools have to report cases and who is isolating / tested positive in your school. So they have the data. Just don’t seem to want to share any of it.

Well they wouldn’t be would they ragged, as they were at home at the time.
I’d like to see those graphs for Oct, Nov and Dec.

All very speculative and as mentioned here, lots of caveats:
mobile.twitter.com/kakape/status/1341050330176479232

@CountessFrog

Government are ducking up the vaccine roll out.

I know several home- working nhs staff who are now vaccinated. My DH working in covid ITU hasn’t been offered.

At the point now he’s going to refuse to work unless vaccinated.

They're not fucking it up. It's a logistical nightmare. It was never going to be perfect.

He's going to refuse to work? Wow.

@ProfessorPootle

I think everyone is more likely to catch this new strain. Purely anecdotal, my sister is a mw in a SW London hospital, everyone arriving in the maternity unit is routinely screened for coronavirus. One woman tested positive Monday last week, she was asymptomatic. 12 members of staff have since tested positive, all traced back to this one woman. All members of staff were in full PPE. This is completely different to March/April when they had a lot of Covid in the hospital, dedicated Covid maternity ward but relatively few staff members caught the disease.

Good that’s scary. This is exactly what is making me scared now. I don’t feel our now-normalised means of social distancing and protection are enough now. I have that sickly feeling like I did right at the start of all this.

Yes. When home working staff are being vaccinated in the same trust.

Wouldn’t you?

@CountessFrog

Yes. When home working staff are being vaccinated in the same trust.

Wouldn’t you?

No, I wouldn't. I'm not vulnerable and I know first hand how much some places are struggling for staff. I wouldn't think I was so much more important than anyone else.

Im not a scientist or anything but is it maybe more children are getting as they are unable to sd at schiool etc so often large groups of kids having multiple contacts
Where as adults ( i know not all) are having to sd and wfh etc etc

But in terms of priority for a vaccine, someone working in Covid ITU is much more important than somebody working from home, surely? I would say that the fact that this is not acknowledged, after all the stress of the year so far, is provoking a perfectly understandable reaction in @CountessFrog's husband.

By opening schools without distancing or reduced bubble size, we made our children available as a reservoir to the virus, and it has evolved to spread within the conditions it found itself in. Those who could not or would not countenance ways to make school safe, by refusing all consideration of rotas and masks, are partly to blame here.

It’s a kick in the teeth, they are knackered. Home working staff getting vaccinated while the covid ITU staff aren’t offered??

Nah.

Immunity athletes 😂😂

@fortherosesjohn thats what i thought too and whilst I am happy to have the vaccination , as it stands I don't know if I would want my teenage dc too for a while

@Sixpencefaux

I teach in a secondary school and schools won’t close in my opinion. Obviously that is only my opinion and I don’t know but since they reopened in September Boris has said many times that keeping schools open is a national priority. I don’t think they will ever fully shut again. Even this staggered return is deceiving - the list of who must return on the 4th and not be staggered means my school has approx 900 students in. So even with a staggered return announcement, the government are ensuring the majority of secondary are in school and all of primary. No need to worry about it as a possibility I don’t think.

Sixpence hard to know. I feel for children a lot if it’s not the case but we’ll see.

@CountessFrog

It’s a kick in the teeth, they are knackered. Home working staff getting vaccinated while the covid ITU staff aren’t offered??

Nah.

It's not ideal but how is refusing to work helping anyone?