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Christmas - for those with a terminally ill relative

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CarriesFlower82 · 20/12/2020 08:47

Please can you talk to me about whether you will be abiding by Tier 4 rules this Christmas if you have a terminally ill relative?

I don’t want to say too much as it could be outting, but I have a seriously ill parent. End stage liver disease and a host of other medical problems. They have been in and out of hospital all year but increasingly over the past three months. We have been told the medication and treatment plan is not working. The condition will only deteriorate and likely a year left.

We are all now Tier 4, a 15 min drive from each other. We’ve seen each other frequently during the year as my parents have provided childcare and also when things have taken a bad turn with this patent’s health, we’ve met up to support each other. Please don’t flame me, there have been so many times in the past three months we thought they wouldn’t even make it through the night. It's been frightening and hard for us all.

The plan was to stay at my parents for three nights over Christmas knowing this is their last one. I am sure people think I’m being over the top and should suck it up, but it was the last chance for a proper family Christmas, in my childhood home, grandparents both together and with their grandchildren. I can’t help but feel sentimental and upset. I don't have the luxury of saying we can do it next year, there is no next Christmas for them.

They want to go ahead and see me, DS11 months and DD4, but I’m wracked with guilt and feel so uncomfortable about doing this. We've been isolating as have they so it's not the risk that bothers me, that's always been there and the parent's view is they are dying anyway. At the same time my heart is breaking because I know I will loose them soon and this is little get together is all that has been keeping them going. I’m worried they will give up but I just feel so uncomfortable going ahead.

No real answers, whatever I do I’m going to feel upset. I’m so sick of this year and so unhappy.

OP posts:
timtam23 · 20/12/2020 13:31

Dear OP, what a sad situation for you. I agree with other posters that you should just go to your family and cherish the time with them.
We have a similar dilemma to you although no one is in tier 4. We are tier 3 and live a considerable distance from my MIL who is in tier 2, is recently widowed & in her 80s. She was given a terminal diagnosis recently and realistically only has a few months left - so waiting for a vaccine may not be the solution for her and us. At the moment she is in fairly reasonable health and is in a support bubble with extended family who live near her, so she has people to see on Christmas day if she wishes. We were never going to join her for Christmas (would be too many households, also I am frontline clinical NHS and the DCs only finished school last friday so we are high risk).

Our plan was always going to be outside the Christmas rules as we had thought of isolating from now for 10-12 days and then trying to visit her just before New Year. We thought this would be safer for her and also if we only get the chance to see her once more it would be perhaps a happier memory for her and the DCs if she is in a fairly good physical state, can still eat etc. DH & his family are now panicking a bit about Christmas and he is talking about waiting until Feb half term but I think she may not be well enough to see us then, and we may well have tighter restrictions or even be in another lockdown so it could get even more complicated. I'm welling up whenever I think about it to be honest, the uncertainty is so stressful.

userxx · 20/12/2020 13:53

Absolutely go.

sortmylifeoutplease · 20/12/2020 14:12

Sorry to hear this OP. I don't think anyone will judge you for going. I would take this opportunity to be there and cherish it. xxx

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 20/12/2020 14:25

Thank you C0NNIE. Your reply means a lot.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 20/12/2020 14:45

Go and enjoy the time with your family 💐

TooOldforBouncyCastles · 20/12/2020 14:46

I lost mum mum in the first lockdown and did not see her for two months beforehand to say goodbye. I will never get over this.

I’m losing my sister to cancer in the next few weeks or possibly days. Luckily this time I can see her. However Covid is a risk because I’d not be able to visit her if I had to isolate following a contact.

You’ve been self isolating...go and enjoy the ones you love.

CarriesFlower82 · 24/12/2020 08:14

Sorry for not coming back sooner.

Sadly we have had some worse news regarding my parent's condition and it now looks likely that things will deteriorate even faster than we thought.

We all had tests on the 22nd which came back last night - negative. We are leaving in an hour.

Thank you to everyone for your support. I still feel so anxious and guilty and like someone is going to report or try and stop us, but I need to spend Christmas with my family. Your words have helped so much.

To everyone in similar situations or that has lost a loved one - I am sending love and will be thinking of you all this Christmas.

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Fbtw · 24/12/2020 08:16

All the best op.

I would go in your shoes. There’s an exemption for terminal end of life I think anyway.

DevilsAdvocaat · 24/12/2020 08:50

@CarriesFlower82 sorry for your news. Glad you are going and I hope you can find some happiness and peace. Merry Christmas x

solvendie · 24/12/2020 09:36

I could’ve written your post as I am in the same situation. The only difference being I live over 200 miles from my parents. I have travelled to see them and will stay 3 nights.

Please go and enjoy your Christmas xx

SabrinaTheMiddleAgedBitch · 24/12/2020 12:42

Please don't feel anxious or guilty. I would do exactly the same in your situation. Have a peaceful Christmas OP X

bloodywhitecat · 24/12/2020 12:46

We are in your position except it is my DP who has been told he has months to live. At the moment he is not ill if that makes sense but it is likely he won't be here come summer, we go into tier 4 on Boxing Day and I think we are going to be ignoring the rules to a point so close family (my kids and his DD) can visit us.

OllietheOwl · 24/12/2020 12:48

OP another one here who would absolutely do the same in your situation. The tiny risk of passing anything on will far, far be outweighed by your last Christmas together. Sending you lots of Flowers

NoSquirrels · 24/12/2020 23:43

God bless you and yours, Carrie. You won’t regret it and you’ve nothing to feel guilty for.

TheKeatingFive · 25/12/2020 00:20

Honestly OP, I don’t understand why it’s even a question.

What do other people’s judgements/boris’s pronouncements matter when you have so little time left? I don’t get it.

ekidmxcl · 25/12/2020 01:01

It’s absolutely fine for you to go. Legally and morally. I hope you have a nice Christmas.

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