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Can we move to Tier 4 before midnight?

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Xmasiscancelled · 19/12/2020 18:15

Absolutely devastated by the news today. We were meant to spend Christmas with my DPs but they've been moved into Tier 4, or at least will be at midnight.

DH is out of work at the moment, and I WFH, meaning as long as I have my laptop etc I can work anywhere. If we were to go to my DPs before midnight tonight, and so temporarily "move in" with them, would we be OK?

It's just an idea, and my judgement is probably clouded by being desperate to see my DPs. My mental health has taken a battering this year, and DF has early stage dementia, so I'm desperate for him and DD to have a Christmas together before it gets any worse. I know I'm probably being UR so please be gentle.

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Bluewavescrashing · 19/12/2020 18:16

Chris Whitty explicitly advised against this during the briefing today.

Omeara · 19/12/2020 18:16

But presumably you will want to return home again afterwards. This is what they’re trying to prevent, the new strain infecting other parts of the country.

Ohchristmastreeohchristmastree · 19/12/2020 18:17

It would probably be the moving out again that will be the problem.

Cleverpolly3 · 19/12/2020 18:18

You’d have to stay there for a long time

KitKatastrophe · 19/12/2020 18:18

I probably would in your situation, however I dont think you are supposed to. If you moved in then you would have to live their until whenever your home region moves out of tier 4, which could be months.

StatisticalSense · 19/12/2020 18:19

No. You are not special. Just like everyone else the rules apply to you. This is a shit situation for everyone and the knowledge that a good proportion of society are trying to find any loophole that they can that will mean those of us following the rules are stuck with restrictions for even longer makes it even harder.

Findahouse21 · 19/12/2020 18:19

No, you can't I'm afraid

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 18:19

Technically you can, who's going to stop you?

PurpleDaisies · 19/12/2020 18:20

You really shouldn’t.
Watch and briefing and Chris Whitty’s response to this question.

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 18:21

As far as I’m aware the law is not yet published

I think they will be hard pushed to stop you returning home when you were already out of the area.

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 18:23

Lots of people left yesterday to spend Xmas wherever they were spending it.

Original poster
Xmasiscancelled · 19/12/2020 18:24

I know we shouldn't. I know we're not special.

I'm just having a hard time coming to terms with everything - a lot of people will be in the same boat I imagine.

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PicsInRed · 19/12/2020 18:24

Could you live there for 3 months, 6 months, a year? Without returning to your own house even once (which NB: would likely be uninsured after around 3 months due to length of vacancy)?

FancySomeChips · 19/12/2020 18:25

Go.
I’m having Xmas alone- my work bubble burst- but atm you are free to do a midnight flit- do it!!

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 18:25

@PicsInRed as if that scenario would ever happen. Plenty of people will leave today. I'm in London & the vast majority on my street aren't Londoners. Some are packing up now

CuppaZa · 19/12/2020 18:26

In your situation I would OP Flowers

Girlonatubetrain2 · 19/12/2020 18:26

I'd go

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 19/12/2020 18:28

What are the regulations around providing care? If your DF has early dementia and needs the support?

You'd be locked down when you got there - so weigh up if that is really best for your DD?

Todayisgood2 · 19/12/2020 18:30

Go if you can but be prepared for the long haul. I wish I could see my mum and dad....

Orf1abc · 19/12/2020 18:31

Take covid out of the picture, would you class this trip as a short visit or moving in? Are you planning to change your address with the doctor, insurance, council etc? I'm guessing not.

I understand how upsetting this is, I feel the same. But what you're doing is not within the spirit of the law, and though I've not seen the legislation yet, it's likely to be unlawful.

Plsv87 · 19/12/2020 18:35

If I were you I would 100% do it.

PicsInRed · 19/12/2020 18:36

[quote flipapoo]@PicsInRed as if that scenario would ever happen. Plenty of people will leave today. I'm in London & the vast majority on my street aren't Londoners. Some are packing up now [/quote]
If the new strain imperils the efficacy of the vaccines, then - in order to buy time to modify the vaccine - all bets are off.

CatVsChristmasTree · 19/12/2020 18:39

I don't think you can do it under the current guidelines anyway? No indoor household mixing even in tier 2, let alone tier 3. Unless I'm confused...

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 18:39

@Ihatemyseleffordoingthis

What are the regulations around providing care? If your DF has early dementia and needs the support?

You'd be locked down when you got there - so weigh up if that is really best for your DD?

Why would she been locked down when she got there?

Is that what you think Johnson will do next - a Dan Andrews “wherever you spent the night is where you’re spending the next six weeks”?

friendlycat · 19/12/2020 18:41

No sorry