Can we move to Tier 4 before midnight?

[Xmasiscancelled]

Absolutely devastated by the news today. We were meant to spend Christmas with my DPs but they've been moved into Tier 4, or at least will be at midnight.

DH is out of work at the moment, and I WFH, meaning as long as I have my laptop etc I can work anywhere. If we were to go to my DPs before midnight tonight, and so temporarily "move in" with them, would we be OK?

It's just an idea, and my judgement is probably clouded by being desperate to see my DPs. My mental health has taken a battering this year, and DF has early stage dementia, so I'm desperate for him and DD to have a Christmas together before it gets any worse. I know I'm probably being UR so please be gentle.

Understandable how you feel, of course.
But, no you should not.
You could bring it to them, or risk yours and your family to catch it.
This is a new variant too, so not sure if you can catch it even if you already had it. Even more infectious than previous. So stay home.
Can you video call them?

If I were you I would.

Chris Witty has said no, but it wont be enforced.

It's from midnight. I had a horrible reality this week that it could be my mums last. I had to go into a covid hotspot or choose to leave her to die on her own.

My decision was made for me. I have been seeing her rarely during the year. The thought that if she had gone the other way and died and I hadn't been visiting her during the non lockdown times was horrible.

It's probably not a good idea. But the beginning of 2021 will be a new fresh level of hell.

Weigh it up. If I thought it was my parent last year and I wasn't breaking the rules, I would be tempted too

@Delatron

I really think there should be exemptions for people with mental health issues.

I am happy to hunker on down and not see anyone but there’s been lots of threads tonight of people struggling with their mental health. To me this is important to address and you should do what you need to do.

Thank you

I have a long history of mental health issues which makes me “lucky” in that if we reach the stage if needing proof, I can provide it.

But others will have developed mental health issues and not even had a chance to see a GP.

@flipapoo

Almost certainly it'll be fine so might be worth a punt. I wouldn't, but I wouldn't have gone to Peru or India in February either. Some gave it a shot - cos "what could go wrong I'll just get a flight home" and that went well.

But the OP is travelling by car is she not? Unlikely she will need a flight home.

What I'm saying is that there is no guarantee that people in Tier 4 will be permitted to physically leave Tier 4. This has occurred in lockdowns overseas - regions firmly quarantined and those inside at the time prevented from leaving by roadblocks and police.

Depending on how serious this new strain is (i.e. wrt the vaccines), the OP should consider that Chris Whitty's warning of "unpack" may be more meaningful than it sounded at first listen.

You could go as I guess the risk is worse where your going but you must stay there until travel in and out of tier 4 is allowed - that could be months - are you prepared to do that, or is this just for Xmas?

Just to say that we won't be travelling to theirs tonight. This thread was created in a panic in a moment of desperation.

It's completely and utterly shit, but we've agreed to go to theirs for a "Christmas day" in January, or whenever the fuck we'll be allowed to.

Thanks OP. Really, thank you.

I get the shellshock it must feel like in these areas of London and the South: a week ago tier 2 with pubs and restaurants open, now full lockdown again. Here in the North West it has been so so long that we have been in "tier 3" arrangements - since late July - that we have become quite used to not seeing anyone.

It's such a shame as it has felt like we were on the verge of tier 2; now because of people (unlike you) who will say "Sod it" and travel to and from tier 4 anyway, it's pretty much inevitable that we will have the new variant raging here by mid January.

While I agree there should be exemptions for people with genuine mental heslth problems I can also see the problem of trying to police this. How can you tell who is genuine and who is saying they feel very depressed/suicidal just to get a free pass to go and see people? Even saying you need a medical note wouldnt stop the chancers because they will just shoot off to the GP and tell the Gp they feel depressed. Which isn’t fair on the genuine people.

Good decision OP. It's shit for everyone but I live in Birmingham and we've been living under strict conditions for months.

I'm confused. Why is everyone rushing to leave tier 4 tonight? Tier 3 has practically the same restrictions - you are not supposed to leave the area. The only additional restrictions I can see are additional closed shops? Neither tier 3 or tier 4 are allowed to leave the area (except for work) and tier 3 can't mix indoors or stay anywhere overnight. The no mixing rules apply to tier "residents" do how does leaving tonight change anything?

I guess getting out to see family for Xmas.