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Quick poll: who intends to continue with Xmas plans in tier 4?

480 replies

Missmidden · 19/12/2020 17:46

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

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YetAnotherChicken · 19/12/2020 20:26

I'm in tier 3 but am continuing as planned. Which wasn't much anyway as the only people we are seeing outside household are DD and her partner on boxing day. But sorry I'm not being told I can't spend a day with my daughter just because she has to work on Christmas day.

shinyblackdog · 19/12/2020 20:26

39Trickyboy

"For me - the ONLY exemption would be a family member with a terminal illness who won't be alive next year"

This is me - I'm in tier 4 but DB, very unwell (not covid-related), really wants to see us. I don't know what to do. I don't think I'm eligible for the vaccine so I don't know whether I'll ever see him again.

Loopyloui · 19/12/2020 20:26

[quote SomewhereEast]@onlyreadingneverposting8
I wouldn't go ahead in Tier 4 BUT....people are social beings. We're just not designed to live like this. Staying apart for Christmas would be infinitely more sustainable if we hadn't had to stay-a-fucking part for everything for nine months while having every sliver of joy sucked out of our lives. And people in Aus and NZ can fuck right off frankly. They haven't lived through this, largely because they are island nations stuck out in the arse end of nowhere. No where else in the developed world is keeping any better with this endless social distancing bollocks to be honest[/quote]
Well said

FlowFlow7722 · 19/12/2020 20:27

We’ve cancelled, our family of 4 were going to my sisters family of 4 for Christmas Day and taking dinner to my dad round the corner as he didn’t feel happy to mix, so we were going to deliver dinner and open presents in the garden earlier in the day, which be felt comfortable with.

We’re not going now. They are tier 2 (Essex) and we are tier 4 (Essex).

Vinorosso74 · 19/12/2020 20:28

Cancelled our plans. My parents are in NE England and we were due to visit them. We did have a day planned with SIL and her family which is now cancelled. It's shit but I think we all have to play our part. I just hope the government and their families follow the rules they have made!

Backbee · 19/12/2020 20:28

I’ll be following rules, but in return the government needs to vaccinate QUICKLY. It is so pathetically slow and not enough has been reported about this in the media.

Are you being serious?

treening · 19/12/2020 20:30

We are, yes.

ohcarolina2001 · 19/12/2020 20:32

We have cancelled everything. My parents no longer coming here Xmas day. We are no longer going to my in laws on boxing day.

ProfessorPootle · 19/12/2020 20:34

We had already cancelled as could see it going this way earlier in the week. Had parents and my sister’s family coming here, we all changed our minds a few days go. Instead was due to drop Christmas and birthday presents to my parents and sister tomorrow (mum’s bday) but just went now and did a drop off and a quick hello from the driveway. We’ll be at home now as much as possible next two weeks.

SweetGrapes · 19/12/2020 20:35

We are in tier 4 and have cancelled everything.

But it was am easy decision for us. I am glad and relieved to have a quiet Christmas at home with DH and DCs.

shinynewapple2020 · 19/12/2020 20:35

@YouokHun

My Dad is dying. This will be his last Christmas. We live in the same village and we are in Tier 4. I can’t put off this Christmas so that I can spend time with him next Christmas because there is no next Christmas. I can’t leave my mother and him alone and contemplating this.

What would you do?

I would risk assess. If you are confident that you are not contagious yourself ie so you work from home, can you take a test etc I would try to see your parents in some way . If you are all in the same tier you are not travelling out of your area , but it depends on how safe you think you are personally for your parents.
Notonthestairs · 19/12/2020 20:35

Cancelled our plans earlier in the week - numbers are pretty bad in our area.

It is crap. Pinning my hopes on my Dad and PIL getting the vaccination before Easter (they are all 75+).

MotherExtraordinaire · 19/12/2020 20:36

We're tier 4 and we're abiding what will be by then enshrined in the law.

Why? Because I care more for my family longterm than I do for 2 Christmas days, even though In 5 decades I've never not been with Extended family, so it is a huge wrench!

Regardless that there will be cfers who disregard the law shouldn't have any impact on @Missmidden your behaviour.

duffeldaisy · 19/12/2020 20:36

We weren't going to meet any family anyway, so nothing has changed. Am desperate to keep safe, keep the NHS safe and get the spread down.

It's one Christmas. We can celebrate together another time, and in the meantime enjoy it online. It'd be madness to lose more people this close to vaccinations.

ShopoholicIn · 19/12/2020 20:37

Plans cancelled as well, and i think it's not something govt or the PM enjoyed doing, but 90% of NHS beds are occupied if people decide to ignore the new rules then it will be worse by mid January/February. It's one Xmas not a lifetime.

FoodDrive · 19/12/2020 20:37

I’m not changing - I’d seen the stats and cancelled anyway.

What I find shocking is how many people had been planning to meet up - thank God Boris has brought in these rules

Parkmama · 19/12/2020 20:39

I'm in tier 4 and have scrapped all Christmas Day plans. There are definitely no grey areas about this!

MajesticWhine · 19/12/2020 20:40

No not doing anything now. Was just going to drop some presents up in the midlands on Wednesday but now not even going to do that.

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Missmidden · 19/12/2020 20:41

Not had the chance to come back to this as my 10year old heard the news and has been inconsolable since.

She has been a total trooper and put up with missing out and cancelling so much this year, but the news that she wouldn’t be able to see the cousin she is really close to and has barely seen all year is a step too far.

COVID restrictions are of no direct benefit to kids and young people whatsoever but they will be paying for them for decades. I can’t recall the name, but my sympathies to the poster whose children sound even worse affected than mine 😔

We have cancelled though my family and I would happily have gone ahead, but my partner is a rule follower through and through. Needless to say we’re barely speaking now!!

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MeMarmite · 19/12/2020 20:42

The govt handling of all this has been shit, but Christmas can't be the reason why we spread the virus to others, can it?

loulouljh · 19/12/2020 20:43

The rules are not about the virus. They are about control Wake up people.

Flaxmeadow · 19/12/2020 20:43

Because people have been doing that for months with the promise that ‘it will be over soon’ and it hasn’t worked

No one promised that. No science or govenrment said it would be over soon. Infact they said the opposite

They have told us, science and governments across the world, over and over again, that it would take time.

There never has been any guarantees right from the start.

To answer the OP. No I did not make any definite plans for Xmas and still do not have any for sure, because this is a changing situation and it changes from day to day and has done since March, so what would have been the point?

lazylinguist · 19/12/2020 20:43

We cancelled well before the u-turn. I'm not especially worried about getting the virus- I'm almost certain I've had it, and gettingit twiceis unusual. I just don't really believe in picking and choosing which rules you fancy following, even if you think the government are a bunch of arses (on which I agree).

MotherExtraordinaire · 19/12/2020 20:44

@Missmidden

Not had the chance to come back to this as my 10year old heard the news and has been inconsolable since.

She has been a total trooper and put up with missing out and cancelling so much this year, but the news that she wouldn’t be able to see the cousin she is really close to and has barely seen all year is a step too far.

COVID restrictions are of no direct benefit to kids and young people whatsoever but they will be paying for them for decades. I can’t recall the name, but my sympathies to the poster whose children sound even worse affected than mine 😔

We have cancelled though my family and I would happily have gone ahead, but my partner is a rule follower through and through. Needless to say we’re barely speaking now!!

COVID restrictions are of no direct benefit to kids and young people whatsoever but they will be paying for them for decades. I can’t recall the name, but my sympathies to the poster whose children sound even worse affected than mine So.thatvthey could be unfortunate and be badly affected or even die isn't protecting them? Or trying not to let them catch it and pass it to a relative, maybe ending up an orphan isn't protecting them?
loulouljh · 19/12/2020 20:45

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