I'm fucking done

[Twizbe]

I'm done. We've been isolating ready to see my parents and now we can't.

This is the third time now we've had to cancel plans last min and I'm sick of it! Totally sick of it!

I live in Crawley, West Sussex so South East and my area is still Tier 2 my DS both live in a neighbouring town, literally next to Crawley and are in Tier 4 so we have cancelled our Christmas. However because I am in Tier 2 my restaurant booking for Christmas Day hasnt been cancelled so my household can still eat there (unless there is another meeting) My DS have come over and collected their christmas gifts from my doorstep and dropped of mine this evening as from tomorrow morning the restriction will prevent them from this.

I am slightly relieved this has decision has been taken out of our hands as I had set my own restriction, that if we got to 40k cases a day I was staying home and keeping apart from my family, this new strain has made that decision for me which is a relief as I dont trust my judgement when missing my family is part of the equasion.

Whatever you do, stay safe and try and make the most of what you are able to.

@BinkyBoinky

I'm confused. He said if you're visiting family members who are in danger of loneliness then that is OK.??

I'm in tier 4 and so is my mum who in her 80s. I have been isolating and working from home for weeks. She has been looking forward to Christmas for weeks and now will be alone? I also don't have a car so I can't go "just for the day" as there will be no transport.

So what do i do?

If your mum is on her own you can still go and see her, stay with her etc as you are her support bubble. Rules for genuine support bubbles haven't changed.

@Yohoheaveho
And that stupid chipper little platitude at the end " as sure as night follows day...."
Do one Boris you twat

It comes across so ridiculous when people get angry with Boris Johnson. He is doing what he has to do and I actually think he is showing leadership. Never thought the day would come when I would say that!

I'll join you in being as fed up as I can be. I'm only not flouting the rules as there is a vaccine rollout coming

I would question the wisdom of those in such high risks jobs mixing at all really.

People in those high risk jobs and their families have sacrificed so much for the health and well-being of the community, they have made huge efforts to keep people safe and now have access to tests so will actually know that they are safer than the vast majority of the population. But hey, let's just shit on them even more than they already have been.

[quote DappledOliveGroves]@Yohoheaveho I don't give a flying fuck if it does end up including me. The purpose of life is not to fear and avoid death.

Why must we have compassion only for those with Covid? What about the other poor buggers who have cancer, people whose operations are cancelled, the young whose education and job prospects have been decimated, the lonely, the people killing themselves because they've lost their jobs, their livelihoods and have no social support because of the rules on distancing and not meeting up? Why does Covid trump them?

I have compassion for the generation whose future we've screwed for the sake of the over 80s. [/quote]
I agree with you 100%. There has been an increase in deaths from people not getting treatment for other conditions but we ignore that because we’re obsessed with Covid. I work in the university sector and my colleagues are going on and on about how dangerous face to face teaching is for the students. Not one student has died of Covid but over a dozen have taken their own lives due to mental health conditions, heavily exacerbated by forcing students to live in isolation and learn online.

The fact that collective worship is still allowed in Tier 4 shows that these rules aren’t really grounded in science

That is almost funny....

In tier 3, still having family round on Christmas Eve, and other family round on Christmas Day, past giving a fuck now. Enjoy your Christmas everybody.

I am heartbroken for my parents with dementia. This is certainly the last Christmas that they will be aware that it is Christmas. But it is too far to go there and back in one day, and there are other people I have to think about - we really can't risk transmission.

@Cecily42
I felt the same right up until tonight. But there are ways of doing things, I watched Nicola Sturgeon straight after and the difference was striking. Now I dont know a lot about her politics but as a human being she was sincere , informative and treated her constituents with respect.
We got a scruffy bloke with silly catch phrases talking down to us.

I'm physically sick at this news. We havent seen lovely sister in laws family for a year now and have had to cancel 2 holidays with them.
I've worked on the NHS frontline throughout. I've caught Covid, my husband and dgtr caught covid from me.
We have waved off 3 kids to uni and watched 2 of them struggle with the lockdown isolation to the point that one quit uni entirely. We have gone months without seeing DC.
I have had enough.
To everyone forced to cancel plans, I send my heartfelt empathy.

Feels like we’ve gone backwards. Sounds like they’re scared shitless by this new strain as they haven’t a clue what it means. What it means for the vaccine, I expect after Christmas the majority of country will go into tier 4

Try living in Wales, full lockdown with 7 hours notice! all non essential shops now closed for the foreseeable, announced after theyd shut for the night..
What the actual fuck!!!!!!!!!!!

As long as you don’t whine when thanks to the stifling of economic activity for so long there is no money to fund the NHS.
Masses of extra risk for us given we use my parents for childcare anyway, Practically killing people 🙄

If you ignore the rules, thats me dead then.

What do you mean by that @jaxhog?

I think you have to weigh it up now. Work out whether mental health is worth seeing family. If it is, see them over Christmas, but not anyone else, wear a mask elsewhere, don't take risks.

For example, my parents will host my brother who is a recovering addict on Christmas day, he has no one else and his girlfriend broke up with him a couple of months ago. Quite frankly they are scared of him committing suicide if alone at Christmas.

FIL will come to us, he has long lived alone and had mental health issues and him seeing my daughter ia a bright spot in his life.

MIL is in her first relationship for almost a quarter of a century and will go to partners house over Christmas.
None of these are seeing anyone outside of their bubble.

The virus will always be here, and we have to find ways of living with it. There is a vaccine now, and providing people aren't blatantly ridiculously flouting the rules, life must go on.

@tappitytaptap

Will be continuing with plans. I’m done. Covid is not the be all and end all of life.

It has been for 67,000

Everything @DappledOliveGroves said. 👏

They should have never said in advance that people could spend time with loved ones as too many people took that as a definite and are now disappointed.

But all this “what about long covid” - the government aren’t going to give a shit about you and your long covid when they have vaccinated the old and the vulnerable - we will open up

I cannot believe some of the posts I am reading- completely entitled and self involved- no different to the whole Cummins debacle in the summer.

Do people seriously think their needs and desires trump guidance from the CMO and a virulent mutation of COVID-19?

Sadly, a global pandemic does involve people changing their behaviours . It won’t be forever, but it’s this pathetic, entitled ‘I’m not changing my plans’ brigade which are increasing the transmission and devastation caused by this virus.

No-one wants to lockdown, no-one wants to get ill, no-one wants to be unemployed. Please open your minds a little wider (if possible) and look at this holistically- stay at home and protect yourself, others and the NHS! The sooner we can all follow this simple message the sooner we will be to eradicating the virus.

[quote Fieldofyellowflowers]@LovingCountryLife

Not many people will have been able to completely isolate for the two weeks before christmas.[/quote]
So those people shouldn’t be socialising at all.

I agree, long covid is a red herring. It’s the imminent overwhelming of the nhs and increase in the number of deaths that is the real danger now.