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Tier 4 - I cannot take this anymore!!!!

96 replies

nonono1 · 19/12/2020 16:07

My job is hanging by a thread due to Covid and if I lose that (which I almost certainly will) I will lose my home. Celebrating Christmas with my family was the ONE, the ONLY thing I’ve been looking forward to for weeks - it’s literally the only thing that’s kept me going. I feel sick to my stomach at the thought that this could be banned now too. I’m highly likely to lose my livelihood and my home and now I can’t see my family either. And for what - a virus with a death rate of about 0.1%. There’s no point going on any longer - I fucking give up and can’t stop crying.

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ceeveebee · 19/12/2020 17:31

*not be in this mess

Whattheactual20201 · 19/12/2020 17:32

I am officially broken.

I have a baby in nicu, a 7 year old on children’s ward and a 13 year old ds at home.

Hospital rules currently mean I am the only one allowed with DD, I can’t mix wards so can’t see baby. DP is now the only one allowed to see her. She is due home Wednesday but I can’t be at home so she will be home with DP.
DD7 won’t be allowed home for cmas and not allowed siblings on the ward so I will be at hospital wiTh DD7.
DS13 will be at home with my DP( who is not his dad ) and newborn only they are now not allowed to mix with my parents on Xmas day.

yahyahs22 · 19/12/2020 17:33

What is more than likely my dads last Christmas, first one with his grandchild and now I can't see him. I'm heartbroken
I know its not the same as what your facing I just need to write my pain.
Sending love OP

ididntmeanit · 19/12/2020 17:34

Me too. I hope everyone in the north of England is happy London and the South has in lockdown but they're not. It's what they've wanted since March

What the actual F**ck?!

Blinkered.

Armi · 19/12/2020 17:34

@Wakemeuuuup

Me too. I hope everyone in the north of England is happy London and the South has in lockdown but they're not. It's what they've wanted since March
I don’t know about this new Covid variant, but Mumsnet posters are definitely evolving into a more stupid strain.
Whattheactual20201 · 19/12/2020 17:35

@ceeveebee London as a whole don’t have half as much per 100,000 as Manchester had when they were out in tier 3. It’s only a few boroughs that have alarming rates. In fact our central boroughs have basically around the average rate of infections.

London as a whole is 300 something out of 100,00
Some boroughs have much higher rates but not central London which is at 200.

EmmanuelleMakro · 19/12/2020 17:36

I’m so sorry OP - there is complete lack of understanding or compassion for the real victims of this pandemic which is people in your situation. My son is in your situation and I am desperate to see him.

Remmy123 · 19/12/2020 17:37

It's bollox. I am tier 4 but only 210 per 100k where I live - makes no sense

Loopyloui · 19/12/2020 17:37

I am tier 4 and been in tears !!! I can't take much more

Whattheactual20201 · 19/12/2020 17:38

@Remmy123 most of us are at 200 something

It’s only places like
Havering, Dagenham and barking, Basildon , some other places in Essex and the real outskirt boroughs.

savethewales · 19/12/2020 17:39

@Wakemeuuuup

Me too. I hope everyone in the north of England is happy London and the South has in lockdown but they're not. It's what they've wanted since March
I don’t think that’s the case at all - it was stupid for the Tories to look after themselves in the south and let you mix Willy nilly since easing the lockdown while those in the North remained in tier three. What about our businesses and livelihoods? I think in the North we know that we won’t be far behind.
Pikachubaby · 19/12/2020 17:40

What a load of crap Sad

Bollocks bollocks bollocks

Sorry OP , @Whattheactual20201, and everyone else

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Umbridge34 · 19/12/2020 17:40

[quote 80sColourfulChristmas]@Wakemeuuuup I'm in Tier 2 in North Yorkshire and we know we're on the cusp of being plunged into lockdown again any day now. If anything, you've got a head start. I doubt very much that we'll make it another 5/6 days without it happening.

Those of you affected by the announcement - please remember that the 25th is just a date on the calendar. You can still have your Christmas Day with your families once this is all over. I know it's still really shit, (especially if food & booze has already been bought) but some people are alone either way. My child & I will be alone this Christmas anyway as my mum is too frightened to mix). Try to make the best of it.

I'm sorry to be a geeky bore, but maybe a reminder of history could help some of you gain some perspective right now.

Christmas in 1939, 1940, 41, 42, 43 & 44 were a HELL of a lot worse than any of this for most in this country. Husbands away at war with a high chance they may not return, never ever knowing if they'll still have a home for their family by the next day, not being able to guarantee their children's safety. Then as if that wasn't hard enough, from 1940 right up to 1954 (almost 9 years after the war ended!), food, fat & sugar rationing (as well as clothes rationing and even fuel rationing) made Christmas unbelievably tough and often tasteless for everyone. Gifts they could buy for their kids for Christmas were rarer than hand gel was in March!
I realise this may not make these restrictions any less of a bitter pill to swallow. However we all could benefit from reminding ourselves how fortunate we are to even be safe & well fed at Christmas. To have Zoom. To have each other and a roof over our heads....[/quote]
Comparisons to the war are about as unhelpful as they come. People got through the tough years of the war by coming together. We are being asked to do the very opposite of that.

Everytime someone brings up the war I'm reminded of my mum telling "there's starving kids in Africa you know" and completely invalidating my feelings.

OP it's hard, its shit and your feelings on this are not only valid but shared by many others.

tiredmedic · 19/12/2020 17:41

Careful now, 80scolourfulchristmas, ye'll be having the loonies on here accusin' ya of being a heartless out of touch, Brexit supporting b*tch.....and yer wouldn't be after wantin' that now.
Personally, I'm pretty much in agreement with you........but then again, I'm just a childless married man, so what would I know....

randomer · 19/12/2020 17:44

Please does anybody have any sensible suggestions as to why the country has been closed down for a virus which affects 0.001 per cent of the population

Whattheactual20201 · 19/12/2020 17:45

Oh for anyone who thinks it’s because we don’t care

I have followed the rules from the beginning we shielded because of DD7 for 6 months. She still hasn’t returned to school. We have had 0 support.

I just heart broken that my kids will be split up at Xmas
My ds wont be with his family. I won’t be able to be wirh my newborn and my DD7 not allowed a single visitor.

80sColourfulChristmas · 19/12/2020 17:45

@Umbridge34 What an immature and frankly, ignorant comment. Wow

It's called perspective. It's about changing the way you look at things and being grateful for what you have rather than what you don't!

Rather than swearing about not being able to get pissed and eat sprouts when people are dying all over the world........

80sColourfulChristmas · 19/12/2020 17:47

@tiredmedic

Careful now, 80scolourfulchristmas, ye'll be having the loonies on here accusin' ya of being a heartless out of touch, Brexit supporting b*tch.....and yer wouldn't be after wantin' that now. Personally, I'm pretty much in agreement with you........but then again, I'm just a childless married man, so what would I know....
Was there any need for name calling?

How does ANY of my post relate or refer to Brexit?!?!?!?!?!?!🥴

DelphiniumBlue · 19/12/2020 17:51

@Whattheactual20201

I am officially broken.

I have a baby in nicu, a 7 year old on children’s ward and a 13 year old ds at home.

Hospital rules currently mean I am the only one allowed with DD, I can’t mix wards so can’t see baby. DP is now the only one allowed to see her. She is due home Wednesday but I can’t be at home so she will be home with DP.
DD7 won’t be allowed home for cmas and not allowed siblings on the ward so I will be at hospital wiTh DD7.
DS13 will be at home with my DP( who is not his dad ) and newborn only they are now not allowed to mix with my parents on Xmas day.

That is so hard. Your situation would be awful at the best of times, but the new restrictions make it even worse for you. Hope all your children will be OK, and that this is a bonding opportunity for your oldest and youngest, and DP. I suspect that you will be the one hardest hit by all this. Sending hugs and positive thoughts your way, wish I could do something real to support you.
Forgetmenot157 · 19/12/2020 17:53

It is shit... Really shit... Sometimes frustrating when people only blame the government tho... There is no country that has dealt with this perfectly ( Australia and New Zealand was a different ball game and much much much easier to close down than the rest of the world.)

Look at Europe tho. Everyone thought Germany was doing a great job and now it looks like they haven't done so well. Same with Sweden etc. Trying to balance health and the economy is a hugely thankless job and there would have been no way to make everyone happy. If anyone is actually thinking that Boris is going to bed and thinking how can he screw up the economy and kill as many people as possible then you are delusional.

Asilisa76 · 19/12/2020 17:53

But it isn’t about the death rate of 0.1% it is about the impact on the NHS and the ability for it to continue acute treatment

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Umbridge34 · 19/12/2020 17:55

It's called perspective. It's about changing the way you look at things and being grateful for what you have rather than what you don't!

By that token no one should ever feel sad or down or depressed about anything whatsoever.. because there is always someone worse off than you. Telling people to have some perspective when they're going through a tough time completely invalidates what they're feeling.

Forgetmenot157 · 19/12/2020 17:58

@randomer

Please does anybody have any sensible suggestions as to why the country has been closed down for a virus which affects 0.001 per cent of the population
Because the hospitalisation rate is much higher even if they don't die.... Full hospitals means no room for people that need hospitals for other illnesses etc... The high death rate wouldn't be from covid itself but from the lack of hospital beds available for every other illness!!!

It's really not that hard to understand

Grooticle · 19/12/2020 17:59

@Whattheactual20201 - what a horrible situation for you. Do you at least have a phone that can FaceTime? I can’t imagine being away from my newborn, but of course you must comply with the rules and stay with your daughter. This must be a very hard time. I don’t really have any useful comments tbh, just wanted you to know somebody is thinking of you.