Will you be cancelling your Christmas plans?

[Illy605]

With the impending news that the govt may do a U-turn on the relaxation of the rules over Christmas, will you be cancelling whatever you may have had planned with family and friends?!

I only ask as I’ve seen so many people posting on social media that there’s no chance they are cancelling now, this close to Christmas.

I must be in close contact with hundreds of people everyday due to my job, I travel from region to region- tier 1, tier 2, and tier 3. It just seems unreasonable that I might not be allowed to spend a day with a couple family members who are also out and about for work everyday.

@Hophop26

All those posters so adamant they are not changing their Christmas plans whatever happens dont really seem to realise that ALL plans have always only been tentative anyway, at any split second your plans could be immediately cancelled by being a close contact and needing to self isolate or someone you are planning on being with etc, the numbers of people getting those calls is on the up, what would you do then?!

I keep wondering this. I’m sure some wouldn’t care less

@backaftera2yearbreak Wooo! Hope they stick to it. Thanks lovely, hope you have a fantastic Christmas!

@Hophop26 DD has been isolating from school since last week and her isolation finishes Friday so that’s fine. DS had their last day in nursery last Monday (they only do Mondays)
My dad is retired and mum is working from home. They walk their dog 3 times a day and have their food shop delivered.
We are in a bubble with my parents anyway so if one family isolated the other would have to anyway.

That’s good people are seeing moved
Ones ... but ..: will you cuddle your loved ones ... we are keeping away for many reasons and my eyes are on the new year prize of life being easier with vaccines etc and another reason ....
I’m heartbroken but ...: I’m happy to sacrifice to keep everybody safe ... Christmas, high emotions and alchohol not good .. 😢 ... when I cuddle
My family next year I won’t let go 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤️❤️

@cavalier yes we will be hugging our family at Christmas. They will be passed our baby the second we walk through the door too.

Nope. No changes.

[quote SendHelp30]@Hophop26 DD has been isolating from school since last week and her isolation finishes Friday so that’s fine. DS had their last day in nursery last Monday (they only do Mondays)
My dad is retired and mum is working from home. They walk their dog 3 times a day and have their food shop delivered.
We are in a bubble with my parents anyway so if one family isolated the other would have to anyway.[/quote]
This is why individual circumstances vary so much. We need to all make our own decisions.

No way.

I'm not changing anything

Idiots will be idiots no matter what the government /BMJ says. People who were going to be sensible will be sensible.

It was clear from the threads/posts yesterday that some people are committed to be arrogant, monumental arseholes, who probably clapped the NHS and now stick two fingers up to it, and others - most, I think - will do their level best to avoid putting other people at risk.

Everyone knows which one they are.

Nope. Still working and not seeing family. No chance of that changing.

@TheWichitaWineOne

Idiots will be idiots no matter what the government /BMJ says. People who were going to be sensible will be sensible.

It was clear from the threads/posts yesterday that some people are committed to be arrogant, monumental arseholes, who probably clapped the NHS and now stick two fingers up to it, and others - most, I think - will do their level best to avoid putting other people at risk.

Everyone knows which one they are.

I agree with most of this and am at some of the posts here. Arrogant and seemingly without a thought for others.

But don’t you think there’s a (large) third group, who are confused about what to do for the best, and would have appreciated some clarity from the government today ?

I reduced it from 16 to 6. But that's nothing to do with the gov telling me I have to - I'm.completely fed up and disillusioned with the lot of them - it's simply the right thing to do for one year only. They've lost the plot - and all the lockdowns and restrictions followed by opening the gates is just making matters worse. In my opinion they should only ever have offered strong advice. That brings out the best in people - instead of rules which the idiots see as a challenge to break.

But don’t you think there’s a (large) third group, who are confused about what to do for the best, and would have appreciated some clarity from the government today

You're right. My optimistic hope is that anyone genuinely confused about what to do will err on the side of caution, given the high stakes.

It's hopeless looking for clarity or leadership right now - this government is catastrophically inept and Johnson is dire.

[quote backaftera2yearbreak]@Illy605 yeah up here in Scotland lol. she’s already said she will break away from the UK agreement if she feels it necessary 🙄. I only read what she says now her voice makes me ill. I’m sick listening to her. There’s a virus. We get it ffs. Get off my tv every fucking day. She may reduce the days you can visit but I honestly think she’s lost the crowd now and people will carry on regardless.[/quote]
Me too. I read the decision made in the BBC app, but her voice gives me the rage.
I do love the woman who does the voice over of her though.

She's getting incredibly unpopular up here.

Nobody needs the government to tell them what they should do. Everyone knows the risks involved. If you have an elderly relative around and they catch the virus and are then very ill or die then the fault lies with you and the relative involved. If everyone accepts the risk then crack on.

We are staying home. We would have been a fourth household for our in laws’ bubble and others’ need was greater.

I haven’t seen any of my family since 2019 and it’s likely to be at least another year before I’m able to see them because of strict border controls. I was supposed to be on a plane there now for Christmas, but things change and the situation sucks for everyone. It just felt like we could do our bit to make it suck slightly less in January by staying home.

She's getting incredibly unpopular up here

That's a new POV for me - my family in Scotland have said the opposite. They started out as no fans of NS and have mentioned several times over 2020 that they've been really impressed with her handling of COVID. The trend among their friends/colleagues is that she's won a lot of people over.

Some of us will still be working, looking after your mums & dad's! (Runs for it 😂🤣)

Well said 👍

This thread is doing my head in. It’s not as black & white as some people are making it out to be.

I have bent over backwards this year trying to stick to the rules and keep my family safe. I see my sister regularly as she lives 5 minutes from me. Our children go to the same school and in a school of about 2000, there have been a handful of cases. Our husbands work from home and see no one. So the biggest risk I face is going to the supermarket- that’s the extent of my life.

My parents live in a different region. I travelled to see them in July. My father was isolating as he had a heart condition, but decided that seeing me and his grandchild was worth the minimal risk we took into their house. My mother’s outings were limited to walking by herself and the supermarket, so again, minimal risk to us and religious hand washing & disinfecting everything.

I thank God that we took that decision. My sister didn’t. He died at the end of October (not COVID related) -the day after he & my mother had booked travel to see my sisters and me at Christmas. He had said ‘F* COVID, I want to see my grandchildren’

I travelled for the funeral, which was quiet, but no one got COVID. My mother travelled back with me. She travelled back to her home, where she sees pretty much no one for days. She’s travelling back here for Christmas because the alternative is unbearable for all of us.

Yes, Christmas is one day, but you can’t negate people’s feelings about it just because they don’t align with yours, or because you think it’s not worth it, there’ll be a day in the future. There might not be!

There’s a sensible way to meet people. Obviously, there’s not no risk, but it can be mitigated. We’re not talking about a massive party, just a couple of sensible families getting together to save sanity on a day that is usually loaded with cheer and happy expectations.

People say there’s an end in sight because of the vaccine- we don’t know when everyone will be vaccinated so my feeling is that with common sense, rigorous hygiene, and not suddenly deciding to start going to raves, we’re pretty safe and will be able to support my mother who is finding life really bloody difficult.

One size does not fit all.

Never made plans. I'm a teacher so trying to minimise contact. Daughter attends another school. Her Dad is a college lecturer. We don't want to risk it.

We are going ahead as planned.

@babytantrums sorry for your loss.

And BTW I never clapped the NHS. I fucking hated that. Performative nonsense.