Covid 19 vaccine vaccination numbers, why won't they tell us?

[MG2020]

I've been looking for a few days about the number of people vaccinated in the UK. However, this appears to be some kind of secret.

Does anyone know how many people have been vaccinated and how many vaccinations we have in the UK and what we can expect by mid Jan 2021?

I fear this secrecy means that things are not going to plan and when Matt Hancock said the other day that tens of thousands of people had been vaccinated, it was far from true.

You may recall the figures about Covid 19 tests when we were told x amount of tests were carried out but they failed to declare that everyone had at least two tests and many NHS staff and others in hospital were being tested several times a day therefore 100k tests may have been 20k tests in reality.

I want the jab and so do our children but both are severely allergic so we are praying for others to come on line ASAP.

I don’t think anyone thought there’d be millions vaccinated by Xmas! When did Boris say that?
They have always made it pretty clear that the majority of the vaccines will arrive Jan onwards and pose by Easter not Christmas.
I think it is utterly remarkable to have had anyone vaccinated at all by this point, let alone 350k people. I think it is a marvellous achievement and we should be grateful we live in a country capable of doing it.
I saw a poll where 80% of the population thought the Gov was doing a good job on the vaccines so it seems like the U.K. agree.

uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-pfizer-br/uk-says-expects-to-receive-10-million-doses-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-this-year-idUKKBN27P1OR

I certainly expected this to happen, instead we get 800k.

who gives a fuck what a poll thinks?

There you go OP, you're getting your figures

[quote CoffeeandCroissant]Vaccine numbers tracker:
ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations[/quote]
Thank you for sharing that.

Some good news in a day of crappy news.

Many thanks CC, great link and one I have saved.

Matt Hancoked said this morning a few mins ago on the BBC that he "mis-spoke" about the "millions getting the vaccine by end of year" and mean "doses". The news presenter failed to pull up Hancock on the nuber that we will be getting or the new targets of jabs this year.

At the current rates it will take a good 30 years to get about half the nation vaccinated

so, does anyone know how many vaccines we have had supplied and the figures for end of year, then end of Jan and end of Feb?

What are the new targets for vaccinations in the UK

The link of world wide vaccine jabs, why does it not include the USA?

Thanks

@Waspnest

There you go OP, you're getting your figures

True - but the reason Hancock and co hid them is the fact it was never going to be the "millions by the end of the year," was it. Now we know that we'd be luck yo get 700k by the end of the year

They are keeping it a secret the number of vaccines we have and we all know why they are keeping it secret along with how many people are going to be vaccinated every week as they can't get their act together.

The gov has a new excuse now, ie the new varriant of covid but most people knew that shopping over xmas and then the free for all rummber stampped up until last night would give us the USA eeffect.

The USA haven't released figures yet, like us and Canada it takes a while to get things up and running. We've done very well so far and speeding up all the time. Our local hub has gone from one to four in the last week, quadrupling rates. The limiting step is the vaccine supply and also the need for resuscitation teams on hand, in case of anaphylactoid reactions. If AZ is approved on the 28/29th the local football stadium is already booked and set for mass roll-out.

30 years to vaccinate the U.K.
You were saying 20 years a few days ago. You’ve added another decade
And the countries vaccinated link shows rates per million I think. So presumably the US being a huge country comes under the World figures as they’ve only just started. But once they get going and have a significant number vaccinated they’ll get their own line on the chart.and I am sure as other countries join the chart, they’ll be no incentive to separate out the U.K. countries and we’ll just be the “U.K.” again.
So few countries have started vaccinating there is very limited data.
But like when that cruise ship Princess something was top of the corona virus cases data for ages until actual countries took over.

I do enjoy your posts MG

My guess is that by Easter the elderly, healthcare and medically vulnerable will have had their vaccinations particularly if other easier to distribute vaccines come on line. Once these groups are vaccinated hopefully the number of admissions to hospital and deaths will drop.

From BBC news website:

About 500,000 vaccinated by end of Sunday
Andrew Marr asks the health secretary whether he can rule out schools having to close in January and move to online learning.

Mr Hancock says there will be a staggered return for many secondary school pupils in areas with high infection levels, based on a new system of mass testing being put in place.

"I've learnt not to rule out anything in this pandemic, but the plan is for schools to open with the staggered start."

On the number of people who have been vaccinated so far, he says the current figure is 350,000 and he hopes this will rise to nearly 500,000 by the end of Sunday.

The health secretary says he "misspoke" when he said recently that he said millions would be vaccinated before the end of the year, saying he was referring to doses delivered to the UK.

It's all about the Oxford vaccine. If we get that then we can vaccinate at the rate of the normal flu virus.

Mr Hancock says there will be a staggered return for many secondary school pupils in areas with high infection levels, based on a new system of mass testing being put in place.

So everywhere but the the isle of wight by that point.

@notevenat20

It's all about the Oxford vaccine. If we get that then we can vaccinate at the rate of the normal flu virus.

Much faster I think because we have more people to get through and are throwing more resources at it

@notevenat20

It's all about the Oxford vaccine. If we get that then we can vaccinate at the rate of the normal flu virus.

Yes, that would speed up the roll-out significantly. I think there is some confusion over the Pfizer numbers as the initial delivery is 800,000 (enough for 400,000 people) but there is 3 weeks between doses so it's possible (likely?) that the initial order will be used for 800,000 people and the second doses for those people will come from on going deliveries, as will further first doses once 800,000 people have been vaccinated?

"The UK pre-ordered 40 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and has taken delivery of 800,000 so far. That is enough for 400,000 people as each recipient has to take two doses 21 days apart. "

"The government has said the UK will have secured 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine for distribution in December 2020."
www.sciencefocus.com/news/covid-vaccine-uk/

However, the 10 million figure is out of date, this will be lower due to manufacturing delays, but government won't provide an updated figure for December.
www.ft.com/content/38fecae5-86d0-49a5-8a33-3bf4a64e57bb

Novavax also expect phase 3 trial results in early 2021, so we could see that vaccine approved in February or March? (The current high prevalence of Covid19 in the UK will speed up their results).

UK has ordered 60 million of Novavax plus 40 million Pfizer, plus 7 million Moderna, so even excluding Oxford that's enough for the entire adult population. (UK adult population approx 53 million, 107 million doses divided by 2 = 53.5 million).

It would be useful to see a detailed (updated) availability/delivery schedule for the Pfizer vaccine though.

I think they’re being cagey about deliveries because of security but we have had more than the initial 800k delivered.

Every country wants the vaccine, the U.K. will just have to take its turn.

If you scroll down the page on ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations/ you get actual numbers rather than percentages.

@sashagabadon

30 years to vaccinate the U.K. You were saying 20 years a few days ago. You’ve added another decade And the countries vaccinated link shows rates per million I think. So presumably the US being a huge country comes under the World figures as they’ve only just started. But once they get going and have a significant number vaccinated they’ll get their own line on the chart.and I am sure as other countries join the chart, they’ll be no incentive to separate out the U.K. countries and we’ll just be the “U.K.” again. So few countries have started vaccinating there is very limited data. But like when that cruise ship Princess something was top of the corona virus cases data for ages until actual countries took over.

Please do the maths at the surrent rates.

The health secretary says he "misspoke" when he said recently that he said millions would be vaccinated before the end of the year, saying he was referring to doses delivered to the UK

Misspoke seems to be the new word for lying as we've neither.

His job isn't to bullshit the population into thinking this will all be over by xmas.

Stupid question (ready to be laughed off the thread) but would it have any efficacy to have 2 different jabs?
Say you were in the first roll out of the Pfizer jab...but the whole 800,000 doses had been used. Would there be any benefit in having a second jab of the Oxford Vaccine if it was readily available??

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

I think they’re being cagey about deliveries because of security but we have had more than the initial 800k delivered.

A little to do with that, ie 1% but 99% of it is politics as they have lied intially saying that millions would be vaccinated by end of year and now Hancock has admitted for the first time he "mispoke" and mean the number of vaccines in the uk by end of year and not jabs and when he is pulled up in a weeks time, he will say he misspoke again and meant that we were hoping for millions but only got enough for 600k people and that is why they keeping quiet about it. Just like track and trace, death figures, infections figures, last moment cancellations of Xmas when they knew what would happen even without the new strain About the so-called "new strain it has been around in Sapin and Italy I think for a few months and they knew how easily it spread.

@Bluethrough

The health secretary says he "misspoke" when he said recently that he said millions would be vaccinated before the end of the year, saying he was referring to doses delivered to the UK

Misspoke seems to be the new word for lying as we've neither.

His job isn't to bullshit the population into thinking this will all be over by xmas.

Please get real re "BS" as it rolls off their tongues

What he said, Hancok said and it's a fact that "millions would be vaccinated by end of year" but now said he "misspoke" as he meant the number of vaccins.

You appear to be a beleiver, so how many vaccines does the UK have and how many people will get the jab by the end of the year then end of January, please?

Misspoke seems to be the new word for lying

I wouldn't say "new" exactly, but yes you're right - which is why some of us no more believe the comments about vaccines than we do anything else

As said elsewhere, those placing so much faith in them had better hope they work; otherwise we're back to finding a way to live with the virus unless folk really believe we can carry on like this indefinitely

@Fizbosshoes

Stupid question (ready to be laughed off the thread) but would it have any efficacy to have 2 different jabs? Say you were in the first roll out of the Pfizer jab...but the whole 800,000 doses had been used. Would there be any benefit in having a second jab of the Oxford Vaccine if it was readily available??

It’s not a stupid question at all, it’s such a sensible one that there are several trials looking at just that. I think it’s Imperial that is looking at mix and matching various different vaccines and Oxford is looking at pairing AstraZeneca and Sputnik. It’s potentially very exciting not only in case one type runs out but because it’s possible even better efficacies than 95% might be achievable with the right combo.