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A plea to those who have/will stop sticking to the restrictions

172 replies

PuzzledObserver · 12/12/2020 14:14

Loads of people on various threads have said things like I’ve had enough, I’m seeing my friends, once the vulnerable are vaccinated I’m not wearing a mask etc.

This has been going on a long time, the idea of it going on much longer is unbearable, I get it. But, I want to make an appeal to you on behalf of those who are more vulnerable and are not willing to throw caution to the wind.

If you, and your friends/family, want to get together in private, or in the open air, in defiance of whatever rules are in place at the time - well, as long as you’re all consenting adults, that’s your business. Actually, it’s not solely your business, because one or more of you could then go on to pass the virus to someone vulnerable, but that’s not my main point here.

My point is, whatever you decide to do amongst your friends - when you are out in public, please respect the wishes of other people who have made a different decision to you.

Please carry on wearing your mask in the supermarket and on the bus. Please keep your distance from people who are clearly trying to keep theirs from you.

You want to make your own decisions about risk? Fine. You don’t get to make that decision for others, and that means you have to keep away from anyone who is not choosing to be close to you.

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Primulachristmas · 12/12/2020 14:18

And pull the bloody mask over your nose

tinytemper66 · 12/12/2020 14:27

I have stayed in today except for the supermarket shop. I normally meet family every Saturday for the last 7 years at the beach for a coffee. We have stopped doing so as it is so precarious in our corner of South Wales.
I want to finish for Christmas next week and hunker down with the family.
I will wear a mask et al for the foreseeable future and get the vaccine when it is my turn.

FearlessGreatExpanse · 12/12/2020 14:28

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PuzzledObserver · 12/12/2020 14:38

If they are free to decide, then so am I.

You decide to mingle? OK, then.

I have decided not to mingle. Please do not take my choice away by mingling with me against my will. And yes - wear your bloody mask properly!

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FearlessGreatExpanse · 12/12/2020 14:43

Blah blah face nappy blah muzzle blah against my rights

So many just won’t and expect to rely on the efforts of others.

At least they’re not bleating on about “why don’t we follow the Swedish model” anymore.

onedayinthefuture · 12/12/2020 15:43

Just so you know, death comes to us all. It catches up to us sooner or later. No one is immortal. When your times up your times up.

MyPersona · 12/12/2020 15:51

@onedayinthefuture

Just so you know, death comes to us all. It catches up to us sooner or later. No one is immortal. When your times up your times up.
So it’s fine if my time comes 20 years sooner that it might otherwise have done because some cunt thinks that wearing a mask is an infringement of their human rights? What about my rights?

No! Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.

Wear the mask, keep your distance and kindly confine your ‘risk assessments’ to your own affairs.

onedayinthefuture · 12/12/2020 15:58

@MyPersona how will it come 20 years too soon? As I said if that's the time you die, it's not 20 years too soon. Your fist will do nothing and you know it.

EnPoinsettia · 12/12/2020 16:02

[quote onedayinthefuture]@MyPersona how will it come 20 years too soon? As I said if that's the time you die, it's not 20 years too soon. Your fist will do nothing and you know it.[/quote]
Do you really just believe in fate to that extent?

So if someone got drink and got into a car, then ran down your kids and killed them, that would just have been their time to die, no biggie?

Like fuck.

Scarby9 · 12/12/2020 16:10

And murder?
(NOT equating non-mask wearing or mingling as murder - just following the logic of 'time to die' through).

Pomegranatespompom · 12/12/2020 16:12

@FearlessGreatExpanse

It’s absolutely despairing.

rosie39forever · 12/12/2020 16:21

@FearlessGreatExpanse
Please don't call them cunts, they obviously lack the warmth and depth to be cunts!

onedayinthefuture · 12/12/2020 16:22

If you get murdered or killed in a car crash that's tragic and you'd hope justice would be served, accidental or cause. But this is a virus, unless anyone knows different, COVID-19 wasn't made in a lab and no one is responsible for killing people, despite what we are being told all along.

It's Mother Nature. Mother Nature generally doesn't cause car crashes or murders. We have to be thankful that we live in a modern world that can do so much to treat all types of disease and illness, poorer countries however, have lived like this forever. This can't go past next spring, people giving up their lives for something (even if vulnerable) are still more than likely to not need any medical intervention for.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 12/12/2020 16:25

I despair really. About 10 years ago dh was diagnosed with a long term illness. We understood that meds affect immune system but otherwise has remained well. The corona virus pandemic has opened our eyes
We take precautions and follow all the rules but the number of people who just don't socially distance or wear masks is rising. There choice but when they come right in our face it is annoying.
Also annoying is the attitude that those likely to die are frail end if life types. This is so not true.

gottakeeponmovin · 12/12/2020 16:29

Honestly you only live once and whilst not vulnerable I want to get back to living a normal life. I'm fed up of not seeing friends and family for what is effectively a minute risk to most people. As soon as the jab has been rolled out to the over 60s I am going back to normal but I certainly respect any of my friends who don't want to mingle. I don't know any though - they will all be doing the same as me

Elieza · 12/12/2020 16:30

This works is full of people who think ‘it will never happen to me’.

And that’s why they do various things. With no thought of the reality of the consequences.

They think that the bad stuff will only happen to others. It’s a great shock to them when they get whatever it is happen to them and reality catches up with the fantasy world where they are fine and dandy.

MarshaBradyo · 12/12/2020 16:32

I’m still following the rules. Yes as fed up as everyone is but will keep going.

Moondust001 · 12/12/2020 16:32

@PuzzledObserver

If they are free to decide, then so am I.

You decide to mingle? OK, then.

I have decided not to mingle. Please do not take my choice away by mingling with me against my will. And yes - wear your bloody mask properly!

Neither agreeing nor disagreeing with your opinions, but this makes absolutely no sense. You have the right to decide not to mingle. But that means you don't mingle - stay in your house, don't go out, don't see anyone, don't go shopping. It doesn't mean that you get to tell people that they can mingle but then have to conform to your rules because you want to go out and, well, mingle! If you aren't out then nobody can mingle with you against your will. If you are out you are one of the people mingling.

Whether you like it or not, people are required to comply with the rules, and to do so for as long as those rules are in place - whether or not they agree with the rules. If and when those rules change that's up to them, and if you don't like it, that's tough.

onedayinthefuture · 12/12/2020 16:35

@Elieza

This works is full of people who think ‘it will never happen to me’.

And that’s why they do various things. With no thought of the reality of the consequences.

They think that the bad stuff will only happen to others. It’s a great shock to them when they get whatever it is happen to them and reality catches up with the fantasy world where they are fine and dandy.

Or alternatively many people who have long been forgotten by society be it illness or poverty. Why should they care when no one has given a stuff for them before? And a lot of people are now seeing 'at risk' people who have had the virus and had it mildly.

Funkypolar · 12/12/2020 16:36

But writing a post on Mumsnet won’t change people’s minds will it.

Loopyloui · 12/12/2020 16:42

I have stayed in ,worn masks , and done all the right things and will continue but please don't come on here preaching and it will get you no where on Mumsnet as all of the rule breakers are getting drunk etc

But I am also thinking of people with mental health ,cancer not everything is covid .. saying that I don't want it or my family so keeping them safe

Loopyloui · 12/12/2020 16:43

Apologies I have seen you are not preaching I do agree but it won't change

zzizz · 12/12/2020 16:44

If its a rule they won't have much of a choice anyway will they? They can grumble away but still won't be allowed in a shop or on a bus without a mask.

Timbucktime · 12/12/2020 16:44

I fully appreciate your thoughts in the same way as I fully appreciate other people’s views as we are all different with various options.
What I don’t think is good is the vile name calling that is being used, there is no need to call people things whatever your views.

Some are scared of the virus, others are scared of losing their livelihoods, children’s education etc. Please stop with the name calling.

Loopyloui · 12/12/2020 16:45

@Timbucktime

I fully appreciate your thoughts in the same way as I fully appreciate other people’s views as we are all different with various options. What I don’t think is good is the vile name calling that is being used, there is no need to call people things whatever your views.

Some are scared of the virus, others are scared of losing their livelihoods, children’s education etc. Please stop with the name calling.

Agree with this ... this virus is also causing people to be nasty and loads are suffering mental health too