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Regulators warning over possible allergic reaction to Pfizer jab if you have significant allergies

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CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 10:28

UK regulators warn people with history of 'significant' allergic reactions not to have Pfizer/BioNTech jab

Saw this flash up on the news just now.

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccine-uk-regulators-warn-people-with-history-of-significant-allergic-reactions-not-to-have-pfizer-biontech-jab-12155916

Professor Stephen Powis, national medical director for the NHS in England, said: "As is common with new vaccines the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination after two people with a history of significant allergic reactions responded adversely yesterday. Both are recovering well."

Something to consider if you do have significant allergies.

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CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 10:33

Another link here:

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/warning-patients-pfizer-biontech-covid-allergic-reactions-b229762.html

Seems the staff involved had significant allergies. I will be very interested to know what triggered the reaction.

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JS87 · 09/12/2020 10:36

I think the pfizer vaccine contains polyethylene glycol which some people have been found to have sensitivities to.
www.aaaai.org/global/latest-research-summaries/New-Research-from-JACI-In-Practice/inactive
Note that high molecular weight polyethylene glycols and polysorbates are common ingredients in a wide variety of medications, household products and industrial products so it isn't a new previously unused or untested ingredient.

CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 10:44

Yes, PEG was the one ingredient I didn't like the look of. The rest of the ingredients looked innocuous. And yes, PEG is in a LOT of things (which doesn't make that okay).

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BlackeyedSusan · 09/12/2020 10:51

but possibly makes it more likely you know you are allergic to it. .

Thanks. dd is anaphylactic to some things so I will bear that in mind.

OpheliasCrayon · 09/12/2020 10:54

Thank you so much for sharing this. I'm CEV and have always intended never to get the vaccine due to severe allergies (have been hospitalized for several and others have had to be reported to the drug companies) to many medications. This has really helped me as I've been so worried that if there's anything even remotely approaching "vaccine passports" (I know in reality there won't be) I'd be unable to go abroad etc. But if the drug companies are recommending against then hopefully I'll be ok and will be able to prove definately that I'm unable to have it. Thank you so much for posting I've been so worried about this.

Badbackbernie · 09/12/2020 11:00

I’ve just seen this and echo OpheliasCrayon thoughts.

I’m so glad this has come to light immediately and they have been open and transparent about it.

CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 11:00

I've just discovered the Moderna mRNA virus also contains PEG, PEG-2000 DMG to be precise. So that may also make it unsuitable for some of us.

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OpheliasCrayon · 09/12/2020 11:02

@Badbackbernie

I’ve just seen this and echo OpheliasCrayon thoughts.

I’m so glad this has come to light immediately and they have been open and transparent about it.

I came close to taking something that would have been fatal for me last week until I'd double read the info and realised. So I've been feeling even more anxious because I know how close I was to taking it as it's a painkiller and my arthritis is terrible and I was absolutely desperate. But if I had j wouldn't be writing this now. So this is a relief that there's actually advice issues.
CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 11:06

Yes I'm very glad it's not been hushed up. I have a number of allergies and react strongly to things like insect bites. I'll be avoiding the mRNA vaccines.

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virucidalmaniac · 09/12/2020 11:08

Do we know what is in the Oxford one yet?

Badbackbernie · 09/12/2020 11:10

OpheliasCrayon sounds like that was a close call.

Icanseeclearlynow12 · 09/12/2020 11:10

Is there any information on what their allergys are? It's interesting that even if you are allergic to a food it's not recommended, is that them being extra cautious?

Circumlocutious · 09/12/2020 11:10

I'm guessing none of the volunteers in the trial had any severe allegories?

It does seem like the kind of thing that is predictable shouldn't have been flagged up after administration of the vaccine to the population...

Circumlocutious · 09/12/2020 11:11

allergies* !!!! A severe allegory does sound entertaining...

Circumlocutious · 09/12/2020 11:13

Also to add...is this belated warning symptomatic of the MHRA having somewhat 'rushed' their approval of the vaccine? I'd be curious to see how thorough the FDA guidance is after they approve the Pfizer vaccine.

BahHumbygge · 09/12/2020 11:14

Here's the MRHA advice... basically anyone with anaphylaxis and/or anyone who carries an epipen

"Any person with a history of a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food (such as previous history of anaphylactoid reaction or those who have been advised to carry an adrenaline autoinjector) should not receive the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine.""

"Resuscitation facilities should be available at all times for all vaccinations. Vaccination should only be carried out in facilities where resuscitation measures are available."

Link here, timestamp 10:55

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/dec/09/brexit-boris-johnson-trade-talks-eu-covid-coronavirus-latest-updates

Char2015 · 09/12/2020 11:15

We are asking about allergies before vaccinating. This is what should be happening. Unless the individuals lied and said they don't have allergies, I don't understand how people with severe allergies of this kind are being vaccinated. Worrying that strict guidelines are not being adhered to.

CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 11:15

Well, I think if the trials had gone on longer, or had included more people, then sooner or later someone would have had this type of reaction.

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OzziePopPop · 09/12/2020 11:16

Would this include an anaphylactic latex allergy? It’s not food, medicine etc so not sure!

ImRealHonest · 09/12/2020 11:17

Where I live (not UK) it was stated that those with medication allergies were unable to take part in the vaccine trial. However they’re now saying it’s suitable for all, despite not having trialed on people with allergies. We’re using the Russian and Chinese vaccines here.

I was intending to speak to my doctor when I next see her about it and see her opinion. However, I’d say I’m definitely not going to have it any time soon if this has happened, seeing as I now live alone.

CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 11:19

The potential problem with PEG has been flagged up by, let us say, 'alternative' doctors who do not agree with the current strategy. It's mentioned here:

2020news.de/en/dr-wodarg-and-dr-yeadon-request-a-stop-of-all-corona-vaccination-studies-and-call-for-co-signing-the-petition/

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Lilybet1980 · 09/12/2020 11:19

This makes it even more important that those who can be vaccinated are, to help protect those that can’t be.

CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 11:20

@OzziePopPop

Would this include an anaphylactic latex allergy? It’s not food, medicine etc so not sure!
I'd hazard a guess that if the vaccine comes in vials with rubber/latex stoppers, then that would be problematic.
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MaitlandGirl · 09/12/2020 11:21

That’s me out then - I have serious reactions to several different foods and also various medications.

BahHumbygge · 09/12/2020 11:23

Lots of allergies are cross reactive, eg if you're allergic to a type of food, you're also more likely to be allergic to, say, bee stings. So, I would say follow the news reports and when it comes to your turn to get the vaccine, discuss it with your doctor and follow whatever the latest advice is.