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Regulators warning over possible allergic reaction to Pfizer jab if you have significant allergies

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CrunchyCarrot · 09/12/2020 10:28

UK regulators warn people with history of 'significant' allergic reactions not to have Pfizer/BioNTech jab

Saw this flash up on the news just now.

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccine-uk-regulators-warn-people-with-history-of-significant-allergic-reactions-not-to-have-pfizer-biontech-jab-12155916

Professor Stephen Powis, national medical director for the NHS in England, said: "As is common with new vaccines the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination after two people with a history of significant allergic reactions responded adversely yesterday. Both are recovering well."

Something to consider if you do have significant allergies.

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trulydelicious · 17/12/2020 08:41

I hope they can determine whether it is effectively polyethylene glycol that's causing these reactions

Teaanddimebars · 17/12/2020 12:30

Thank you for that @CrunchyCarrot.

I had one of my DC, who was two at the time, end up in hospital the day after having the Fluenz spray. She was in for three days on oxygen due to wheezing and with a high temp that couldn’t get down for days. They said only that she seemed “very viral”. When I questioned the link to the vaccine I was brushed off with a “don’t be silly/she caught it in the waiting room” type attitude. She’d started to drool at the mouth and become unsteady on her feet about 15 mins after the vaccine, and proceeded to vomiting a few hours later, despite having been perfectly well before that.

There was one young dr, who I was left alone with a one point, who did say to me “I think sometimes we are too quick to trust that vaccines that we give our children”. She had overhead the conversation where my concerns were being brushed off.

I am or always was pro-vaccine, it was the reaction from drs that worried me when I even raised the possibility of a link.

The idea that it couldn’t possibly be connected and wouldn’t even be considered for discussion.

I discovered afterwards that in the clinical trials for that vaccine, some children under two were hospitalised with wheezing - which is why it is not licensed for under 2’s. So, when my just turned 2 year old had that reaction, I still don’t think it was far fetched to consider a link between the two. I reported it through the yellow card scheme myself, and never heard anything back.

I have been wary ever since, not because I wear a tinfoil hat, but because it lead me to question that way adverse reactions are/are not reported.

Teaanddimebars · 17/12/2020 12:31

*the vaccines

trulydelicious · 17/12/2020 14:30

@Teaanddimebars

The idea that it couldn’t possibly be connected and wouldn’t even be considered for discussion

Some worry about conspiracy theories and SM lunacy, but it's incidents like the one you describe that are detrimental to vaccine uptake

The faintest suggestion that a vaccine (or medicine, for that matter) could have caused a problem is often met with outright hostility and quickly shut down like a taboo

Also the fact that when research to try and find correlations does take place, results are generally inconclusive . It doesn't fill you with confidence, to be honest.

trulydelicious · 17/12/2020 14:52

www.thesun.co.uk/news/13499208/nurses-extreme-reaction-pfizer-covid-vaccine-no-history-allergies/

It's two workers in Alaska actually (without previous history of allergies)

canigooutyet · 17/12/2020 15:16

This is very interesting to read. It's 53 pages. It mentions the cut off date which was needed for data purposes. It's the most detailed thing I have found out about the vaccine and includes more info about who was tested and exclusions.

Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting
December 10, 2020
www.fda.gov/media/144245/download

canigooutyet · 17/12/2020 15:20

There was a petition to prevent those who didn't get the vaccine not to be excluded from society.

I'm mentioning this because this brought the vaccine discussion into parliament, and some very interesting things were raised.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442

Circumlocutious · 17/12/2020 16:15

The more uptake of great vaccine is, the more we’ll know about rare side effects: 1 in 50,000, 1 in 100,000 and so on. We simply don’t have the information from the trials because they weren’t large enough on.

Although I’m not sure these allergic reactions fall into that category.

Circumlocutious · 17/12/2020 16:16

The greater the uptake*!

CrunchyCarrot · 18/12/2020 20:22

That must have been very worrying for you, @Teaanddimebars. I do think there are people who do react to vaccine ingredients, or their body just cannot cope adequately with the challenge to their immune system. We are all different. Maybe in the future our genetics will better determine which vaccines will be safe, and other medicines, come to think of it.

@trulydelicious There's always a first time for an allergic reaction. I was fine with shellfish until a year ago, then I started reacting, flushed, itchy face and hands to begin with. That scared me and I haven't eaten shellfish since then. For all I know, the next time could be an anaphylactic reaction. We just don't know.

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