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MHRA approves Pfizer jab for use in UK

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AuntieStella · 02/12/2020 07:05

News just breaking on BBC

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FourTeaFallOut · 03/12/2020 10:42

I think they'll start with the most outrageous sm posts that imply that the vaccine has been introduced to harm the population. I don't think they'll be policing MN posts Grin

ForBlueSkies · 03/12/2020 10:48

UK 'much better country' than France, Belgium and US, Gavin Williamson says
The UK approved a coronavirus vaccine first because it is a "much better country" than France, Belgium and the US, the Education Secretary has declared.

Gavin Williamson praised the work done by the medical regulator to approve the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine for use.

Mr Williamson said the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has "brilliant" experts and the UK's status as the first country to approve a vaccine is due to its superior experts.

"I just reckon we've got the very best people in this country and we've obviously got the best medical regulator, much better than the French have, much better than the Belgians have, much better than the Americans have," he told LBC Radio.

"That doesn't surprise me because we're a much better country than every single one of them."

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-pfizer-vaccine-uk-nhs-tiers-cases-deaths/

This is just stunning hyperbole. Take it from someone who’s lived in five countries: you ain’t the best in the world. Your exceptionalism and sense of superiority is world beating though!

ForBlueSkies · 03/12/2020 10:50

Can’t believe they’re shitting on Europe when Germans designed the vaccine they’ve approved and Belgium is producing it. 😂

FourTeaFallOut · 03/12/2020 10:54

"That doesn't surprise me because we're a much better country than every single one of them."

This is ridiculous - this must just be straight up trolling from Williamson? I was joking before but I'm actually beginning to think this is a tactic to convert anti-european sentiment into vaccine uptake.

MarshaBradyo · 03/12/2020 10:56

@FourTeaFallOut

"That doesn't surprise me because we're a much better country than every single one of them."

This is ridiculous - this must just be straight up trolling from Williamson? I was joking before but I'm actually beginning to think this is a tactic to convert anti-european sentiment into vaccine uptake.

I’m laughing at that. I can’t quite believe he said it. Sounds like something a child would say
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/12/2020 11:02

Maybe there are large pockets of people who are anti vaccine and anti Europe and it’s a deliberate strategy as posters have suggested. Or maybe Williamson is just a dork.

FourTeaFallOut · 03/12/2020 11:03

He's definitely a dork but that doesn't discount the former.

FourTeaFallOut · 03/12/2020 11:08

Sounds like something a child would say

Doesn't it? Looking forward to upcoming news when the cabinet gets together to sing, 'You're shit and you know you are' as the final note to the Brexit negotiations.

MarshaBradyo · 03/12/2020 11:10

@FourTeaFallOut

Sounds like something a child would say

Doesn't it? Looking forward to upcoming news when the cabinet gets together to sing, 'You're shit and you know you are' as the final note to the Brexit negotiations.

Grin with a ner ner ne ner ner
CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/12/2020 11:12

Ya! Boo! and, indeed, Sucks!! Grin

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/12/2020 11:19

@FourTeaFallOut

Sounds like something a child would say

Doesn't it? Looking forward to upcoming news when the cabinet gets together to sing, 'You're shit and you know you are' as the final note to the Brexit negotiations.

That would be funnier if it wasn’t so horribly plausible.
Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/12/2020 11:37

Gavin Williamson: " ...we're a much better country than every single one of them"

And these are the kind of mentalities that will presumably judge what's "misinformation" and what's not Hmm

I agree with a PP that there's nonsense being spouted by both "sides" (hate that word ...) and that perhaps some things shouldn't be said - but do we really want a government who've already abused their powers so thoroughly deciding what we can ever say?

I don't think so

jasjas1973 · 03/12/2020 13:07

"I just reckon we've got the very best people in this country and we've obviously got the best medical regulator, much better than the French have, much better than the Belgians have, much better than the Americans have," he told LBC Radio

"That doesn't surprise me because we're a much better country than every single one of them."

A drug invented in Germany by Turkish scientists, funded by a US company, manufactured in Belgium....... but we are the best because we approved it???

Yogalola · 03/12/2020 18:03

Great news to think life may get back to normal in 2021. The one thing I’m curious about is the logistics with the distribution as only certain hospitals and stadiums will have the resources to vaccinate. My query is if the elderly and vulnerable will be first in line after NHS, care and essential services how will elderly be able to get to these sites if some distance away and have no transport? For instance my Dad (90) lives 30miles from his nearest vaccination centre.

DameFanny · 03/12/2020 18:06

@PrivateD00r

OK then, should GPs refuse to see any patient who isn't covid and flu vaccinated? Same for maternity services, A&E etc? That is a bit of a slippery slope isn't it? Where would it lead to?
This is a ridiculous false equivalence @PrivateD00r - surely if you are a healthcare provider you know you'll frequently see people with diseases you don't have or haven't had. That's why HCPs are vaccinated - so they don't get it or pass it around...
Parker231 · 03/12/2020 18:06

Yoga - GP’s are also involved in doing the vaccinations locally but obviously a logistical nightmare to plan and distribute.

Peppermintpatty24 · 03/12/2020 18:06

Yes. This is true. The reasons are manyfold.

Parker231 · 03/12/2020 18:08

The good news is that the first vaccines have apparently now arrived in the U.K. some lucky people will be the first to get their vaccinations.

rosie1959 · 03/12/2020 18:10

@Yogalola

Great news to think life may get back to normal in 2021. The one thing I’m curious about is the logistics with the distribution as only certain hospitals and stadiums will have the resources to vaccinate. My query is if the elderly and vulnerable will be first in line after NHS, care and essential services how will elderly be able to get to these sites if some distance away and have no transport? For instance my Dad (90) lives 30miles from his nearest vaccination centre.
It's that important that hopefully someone in their family/friends will take them
FourTeaFallOut · 03/12/2020 18:14

Maybe the military could commandeer some ice cream vans and then all the stage one users can just come out of their homes when they hear "Is this the way to Amarillo" getting closer? Grin

(Just a joke in case anyone wants to go into detail about why this wouldn't work)

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 03/12/2020 18:19

@FourTeaFallOut

Maybe the military could commandeer some ice cream vans and then all the stage one users can just come out of their homes when they hear "Is this the way to Amarillo" getting closer? Grin

(Just a joke in case anyone wants to go into detail about why this wouldn't work)

That's inspired!

Although it should be 'I Want to Break Freeeeeeee'.

Mamascoven · 03/12/2020 18:20

Im an NHS worker and many of my colleagues I have spoken to (frontline workers) are not taking the vaccine.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 03/12/2020 18:25

I'll have theirs.

iVampire · 03/12/2020 18:30

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch

How the devil are you?

I was told at outpatients at the start of this week that the vaccine would be safe and there was no reason why it shouldn’t be effective. Then again, my blood continues to behave itself. How’s your lymph?

mynameisbiggles · 03/12/2020 18:30

Good news indeed. I've lost four friends this year - all of them with pre-existing health conditions (cancer) but all four have been registered as having died of Covid-19 - a virus they all caught whilst in hospital. When I see so many NHS staff wearing their scrubs in the street or in the shops etc, I am not surprised so I do hope NHS workers will be first in the queue to have the vaccine. It won't stop death, but at least those who are terminally ill might be offered the dignity to pass away in peace, at home, with their families near.