It's best for children to be in school

[Billie18]

I'm shocked that the consensus here appears to be that schools should close. I believe that it's best for children to be in school. Also that they should not be forced to wear masks or perform any social distancing as this is a damaging for their mental and social development. A thread for parents and teachers who share this view and have concerns about the threat of school closures and forced isolation of children who are not ill.

christinarossetti19 Has it maybe crossed your tiny mind I might have more than one daughter......?

Sorry Billie18 your OP has just come up at the top of the screen and I've noticed that you designated this thread for people who think that no masks and no social distancing is a-okay in schools and that schools shouldn't be closed, nor should children deemed to be a 'close contact' of someone who has tested too positive for covid be required to isolate.

That's actually too mad for me, so I'll get my coat.

As far as I can tell I’m the Teacher Who Speaks For All Teachers who daily swills down the coronavirus section with threads demanding school closures and endless links to petitions demanding the same.

I don’t even want schools closed. Maybe it’s like Fight Club and I do it in my sleep 🤷‍♀️

@Nicknacky

christinarossetti19 Has it maybe crossed your tiny mind I might have more than one daughter......?

Yes, I was waiting for you to say that it was actually your secondary school aged daughter that said that about the corridors.

Was it?

christinarossetti19 Well, there is no point asking my youngest about secondary school.

Nice backtrack though.

Because if it was, I would agree with you, that some schools look like that some of the time, but not necessarily all due to building design and the fact that more than half the year groups are at home SI.

@christinarossetti19

No more mad than wanting schools closed

I haven't backtracked Nickynacky.

I asked if your daughter was six and you said yes.

You didn't mention a secondary school aged daughter, which I was expecting you to.

Was it your secondary school aged daughter that said that about the corridors?

StarryFire who are these people who are demanding that schools are closed?

The last time I saw that said in any strength of numbers was in March.

christinarossetti19 I did mention my daughter. You just assumed I was referring to my younger daughter, you can admit that!

Yes because I asked you if your daughter was six and you said yes!

That's why I assumed you were talking about her.

I think many people who haven’t before been inside a largish secondary school at lesson changeover even in normal times would be quite alarmed. That photo isn’t at all unrepresentative of the sort of pinch point you get where corridors meet and children are waiting to get into lessons, especially if teachers are delayed or absent so cover is needed...the sheer noise of it all, the unrelenting streams of (quite big) young people pushing past in both directions, all in a hurry because they’ll get into trouble if they’re late...
It always took me a few days to cope with it again at the beginning of the year (retired now). After a while, you get used to it and it’s even exhilarating (if you’re not exhausted). And there’s a reason why on “open mornings” prospective parents are generally not shown around at lesson changeover or break! They’d be terrified.

I didn't jump to conclusions. You posted quite a lot about your family on another thread, describing your job, your partner's job, your father and your six year old and childcare issues.

You didn't mention another child.

How on earth is it jumping to a conclusion to go on the information that you have given?

And yet medical staff/surgeons etc are managing to wear them and teach their students and you know avoid killing the patients!I
You need to be honest and say you dont like them. A sweeping statement saying they affect everyone is patently untrue - have you honestly paid no attention to international situation. Almost every single other country.
Do you hear everyone complaining about masks still? Do you hear them complaining about them in the corridors.
If you look at every article about schools do you notice anything about every picture. You will find none of the kids sat as they are maskless shoulder to shoulder. Photos have them all in masks

christinarossetti19 And that thread was about schools and childcare, was it not? Why did I need to mention my teen in it?

So yes, you jumped to conclusions.

Oh, and anyone prepared to go into such an environment at the present time without a face covering is frankly nuts.

Simple most if us want schools to atay open but most also believe that staff and pupils have a right to be as safe in school as those in shops etc so it's open with the limited measures such as hand washing, bubbles, sd, mask etc or it's closed. Your desire to pretend that schools are risk free from covid does not trump others rights to a safe working/learning environment. Infact their rights trump yours because they are the ones that would be at risk.

No Nicknacky I went on the information that you had given.

Happy to disagree with you on this.

@Billie18
still waiting for detailed explanation on why masks and SD are damaging developmental and mental development

@StarryFire: "I would reluctantly support masks being worn in corridors in communal areas on an emergency basis in areas of extremely high prevalence (more than 500 cases per 100,000)."

Isn't that rather like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted? Whether you agree or not, masks are a useful preventative tool, so surely their use should be maximised before the numbers get to that level?
And I think that local public health officials have more on their plates at the moment than to keep firing emails round to local schools each day, saying "masks on/masks off today, folks."

@TheSunIsStillShining

I’ve seen links/posts about:

• data in children
• Unions asking for schools to remote teach for the last week of term
• Unions asking for blended learning
• Rate of transmission in schools

I can’t remember a link to an article outright asking for schools to simply close 🤔

I think people interpret posts the way they want to and they don’t stop for a moment to look at the bigger picture.

That photo is like my school at lesson changeovers - but only for KS4, as due to "zoning" KS3 are largely taught in one room. KS4 have options.
So even within the same school some students would say their school is nothing like that, and some would....

christinarossetti19 However, what difference did it make to that earlier post that I had an older child? Absolutely none.