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Daughter downloaded the app

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Pissedoff1234 · 29/11/2020 21:51

My 16 year old daughter has just downloaded the app. The first time she opened it, it said she had to self isolate.

She hasn't been out of the house since Wednesday. I'm very confused. I've had the app for ages and it's never notified me about anything and when I open it, it just says that it is active and scanning.

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instanthistoryy · 30/11/2020 07:54

So she was sat in her room, alone, downloading the app for the first time. And once it installed, without her leaving the house, it said she needed to isolate? And you're all going along with it? Am I missing something or has all common sense disappeared this year?

musicalfrog · 30/11/2020 08:03

@instanthistoryy

So she was sat in her room, alone, downloading the app for the first time. And once it installed, without her leaving the house, it said she needed to isolate? And you're all going along with it? Am I missing something or has all common sense disappeared this year?

This pandemic and the associated response from govt and media have turned most of our society into a paranoid mess!

PrivateD00r · 30/11/2020 08:09

OP even in lockdown, dd can still go to the shops for essential supplies or out for walks. Or to the college library. There is something in her only allowed out once a week that has made me really sad

PrivateD00r · 30/11/2020 08:10

@instanthistoryy

So she was sat in her room, alone, downloading the app for the first time. And once it installed, without her leaving the house, it said she needed to isolate? And you're all going along with it? Am I missing something or has all common sense disappeared this year?

I know surely most people would have just ignored it and deleted the app given that its clearly crap?I have a feeling there is anxiety at play here given DD is only allowed to leave her house once a week.

dementedpixie · 30/11/2020 08:11

I think its very sad for your dd that you are only letting her out to go to college. You are allowed to leave the house for exercise, to go to a shop that's open or just to get out for fresh air

Comefromaway · 30/11/2020 09:37

@PrivateD00r

OP even in lockdown, dd can still go to the shops for essential supplies or out for walks. Or to the college library. There is something in her only allowed out once a week that has made me really sad

same here.

Ds is in college one week on, one week off (2.5 days per week) and I hadn't realise that on his week off he hadn't left the house. So this week I am going to make sure I send him on an errand to the shop or just a walk round the park.

Pissedoff1234 · 30/11/2020 10:49

Mystery solved. She had downloaded the app before, it notified her and as she wanted to go to college and not self isolate, she deleted it.

After our chat about the app during the afternoon she panicked that she had deleted it, reinstalled it and then came to tell me.

She's very sociable and loves being out so that's why she didn't want to self isolate.

She hadn't been out since Wednesday as she does online lessons on Thursday and Friday and we all spent the weekend putting the Christmas decorations up inside and outside. She does go to the shop and picks my younger children up from school on her free days. She certainly isn't holed up in her bedroom the whole time. I have 3 other children who she spends time with too.

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dementedpixie · 30/11/2020 10:52

She should isolate then if it wasn't a mistake

Comefromaway · 30/11/2020 10:54

She should just delete it and have done with it.

dementedpixie · 30/11/2020 11:01

Sounds like she did have contact though but was trying to hide it

CovidPostingName · 30/11/2020 11:03

So she lied to you. She's clearly not mature enough to have the app but given that she's admitted she lied and did have it earlier, and that it was correct, she really does have to isolate now. Whether she chooses to delete it again after her isolation is another decision. But there's no way I'd be allowing her to break isolation after that performance so far.

MadameMinimes · 30/11/2020 11:04

She’s had close contact with a positive case on Wednesday. She should isolate, not just delete the app. Having the app is not compulsory, so she may not want to keep it after this. Installing the app is the socially responsible thing to do, so I wouldn’t discourage her from having it. It’s especially useful for people who use public transport, which regularly forces you closer than 2m to people you don’t know for extended periods.

Comefromaway · 30/11/2020 11:05

She only has to isolate if contacted by phone by NHS track and trace or if notified in writing by her college.

Unless she has been making illicit visits to friends I can;t see how she would have had the opportunity to come into close contact for the specified amount of time. There are so many issues with the app I really would not trust it.

AcornAutumn · 30/11/2020 11:07

@Pissedoff1234

Mystery solved. She had downloaded the app before, it notified her and as she wanted to go to college and not self isolate, she deleted it.

After our chat about the app during the afternoon she panicked that she had deleted it, reinstalled it and then came to tell me.

She's very sociable and loves being out so that's why she didn't want to self isolate.

She hadn't been out since Wednesday as she does online lessons on Thursday and Friday and we all spent the weekend putting the Christmas decorations up inside and outside. She does go to the shop and picks my younger children up from school on her free days. She certainly isn't holed up in her bedroom the whole time. I have 3 other children who she spends time with too.

Oh dear
Just tell her to not have it

Why do you have it? Did she feel she “should” for some reason?

You’ll be in and out of isolation for months with that thing on.

dementedpixie · 30/11/2020 11:09

She had contact on the day she was at college i imagine as thats the timeline for the isolation time she has left. I'd make her isolate for the lying if nothing else

ScrapThatThen · 30/11/2020 11:10

Well then just have a frank conversation with her - the app isn't compulsory and if she is not going to isolate when it tells her to then there is no point having it. However if school or test and trace tell her to isolate that is a legal responsibility.

AcornAutumn · 30/11/2020 11:13

@dementedpixie

She had contact on the day she was at college i imagine as thats the timeline for the isolation time she has left. I'd make her isolate for the lying if nothing else

I have a feeling she was worried and confused, I don’t think that merits blame.

MadameMinimes · 30/11/2020 11:46

AcornAutumn- the app doesn’t just tell people to isolate at random. People need to stop spouting nonsense that puts people off of engaging with an important public health tool. I’ve had the app installed and running since September. I work in a school (mostly in Sixth Form with students 16+) and get public transport to and from work. I have not been told to isolate once by the app. If the app tells you to isolate, it’s because you’ve been in close contact with a positive case within 48 hours of them developing symptoms or testing positive if asymptomatic. If you follow the instructions and turn off contact tracing when your phone isn’t with you or if you’re in full PPE or working behind Perspex, then it’s highly unlikely that you will get a notification to isolate without close contact.

AcornAutumn · 30/11/2020 11:50

@MadameMinimes

AcornAutumn- the app doesn’t just tell people to isolate at random. People need to stop spouting nonsense that puts people off of engaging with an important public health tool. I’ve had the app installed and running since September. I work in a school (mostly in Sixth Form with students 16+) and get public transport to and from work. I have not been told to isolate once by the app. If the app tells you to isolate, it’s because you’ve been in close contact with a positive case within 48 hours of them developing symptoms or testing positive if asymptomatic. If you follow the instructions and turn off contact tracing when your phone isn’t with you or if you’re in full PPE or working behind Perspex, then it’s highly unlikely that you will get a notification to isolate without close contact.

No. But it can’t differentiate thin walls in flats for example.

It is not an important public health tool.

Pissedoff1234 · 30/11/2020 11:51

She will be isolating as that is what the app has told her to do. She was only with her classmates on Wednesday and we have had no communication with the college so figure it must have been on the bus home.

She's 16 so not an adult and sometimes teenagers make the wrong call. I have had stern words with her about the lying but to be honest, she did the right thing in the end without being forced to (as I had no idea) so I'm glad about that. She's usually a rule follower which is probably why she was worried about lying.

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PrivateD00r · 30/11/2020 11:53

@Pissedoff1234

Mystery solved. She had downloaded the app before, it notified her and as she wanted to go to college and not self isolate, she deleted it.

After our chat about the app during the afternoon she panicked that she had deleted it, reinstalled it and then came to tell me.

She's very sociable and loves being out so that's why she didn't want to self isolate.

She hadn't been out since Wednesday as she does online lessons on Thursday and Friday and we all spent the weekend putting the Christmas decorations up inside and outside. She does go to the shop and picks my younger children up from school on her free days. She certainly isn't holed up in her bedroom the whole time. I have 3 other children who she spends time with too.

Ahh ok, previously you said she isn't allowed out, except to college once a week so I was responding to that. Glad to hear that wasn't correct!

PrivateD00r · 30/11/2020 11:56

@Pissedoff1234

She will be isolating as that is what the app has told her to do. She was only with her classmates on Wednesday and we have had no communication with the college so figure it must have been on the bus home.

She's 16 so not an adult and sometimes teenagers make the wrong call. I have had stern words with her about the lying but to be honest, she did the right thing in the end without being forced to (as I had no idea) so I'm glad about that. She's usually a rule follower which is probably why she was worried about lying.

Aw bless her. I am sure many adults have done what she did, the only difference being she came clean when the implications were explained to her. She sounds like a good'un to me, I am so sorry she is having to miss college.

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insancerre · 30/11/2020 12:03

Thought that’s what must have happened
I’m 53 but still think like a teenager 🤣

Pissedoff1234 · 30/11/2020 12:06

Yes that was probably misleading, sorry. When I said she isn't allowed out other than to college, I meant to a place where she can socialise and see her friends.

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Pissedoff1234 · 30/11/2020 12:07

@insancerre

Thought that’s what must have happened
I’m 53 but still think like a teenager 🤣

Yes you were spot on

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