Getting sick of Tory backbenchers

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Why is Johnson surrounded by these mini Trump characters who are constantly pushing for less restrictions? Just pay people more to tide them over the next few months. Be cautious until the vaccine arrives. They continuously quote crappy research arguing for the ineffectiveness about incentives that their party have put in place ! They are very odd indeed!

That’s kind of my point. The Gov introduced furlough so they ask for more of it. Rather than at least exploring / demanding Gov looks at how businesses can open and people can return to work so that furlough is unnecessary.
Remember all that push to return to work in September rather than work at home. Labour’s position was to demand more wfh, with little thought to the negative implications this has for those working class people that work in those service industries that provide for office staff. Cleaners , sandwich makers, security guards, taxi drivers etc. Labour preferred to argue the case for more wfh and dismissed the more nuanced argument about the effect this has on others that do not have this luxury. It really disappointed me.

Pay people more? Yeah, just keep shaking that money tree.

working from home for office workers is one of the more sensible policies as unless the windows open sitting next to people in an office for hours on end is risky re covid. Clearly support needed to be given to those businesses impacted. However looking at the situation in London it has been made far worse by the lack of tourism and theatres being shut etc. If the government had introduced airport testing instead of an unenforced quarantine and opened theatres with social distancing (subsidising empty seats) there would have been more people in London and sandwich shops etc would have been able to do more trade.

@sashagabadon TOTALLY agree. I thought i was the only one who could see it. Ive unfollowed some left wing bloggers i follow on Twitter because of it.

One comment did resonate however. "Lockdown is where middle class people stay home and working class people bring them things"

@sashagabadon I will never vote Labour again. And ive never voted Tory.

@sashagabadon there is anger growing on some of the housing estates.

What do you mean "Getting". They've been giving me the boak for decades.

[quote MercyBooth]@sashagabadon TOTALLY agree. I thought i was the only one who could see it. Ive unfollowed some left wing bloggers i follow on Twitter because of it.

One comment did resonate however. "Lockdown is where middle class people stay home and working class people bring them things"[/quote]
Exactly. How labour did not see the nuance in that argument or worse did not even understand/ recognise the issue show to me that labour is still the party of metropolitan elites and not the working class at all. It was all why should we save Pret blah blah with no thought to the workers in pret making the sandwiches, the supply food chain to produce the bread, products in the sandwiches, the lorry drivers delivering the sandwiches etc etc etc on and on. All working class people trying to earn a living. So blind and privileged of so many labour mp’s and their Twitter fans.

@sashagabadon Thank You. You have made me feel less like ive fallen down a rabbit hole.

No problem

@Dustballs

I am a bit sceptical as to why the Tory backbenchers are standing up for the poorer younger people. Are they really? Or is it self interest that is making them (finally) perhaps listen to the needs of their constituents.

Whatever it is I personally don't care as no one else is asking Johnson to justify his actions.

But I'm not convinced that these Tories have suddenly become altruistic.

Of course they haven't suddenly become altruistic! They are just recognising that people need to earn a living because we sure as hell can't afford to keep paying them to "stay home".

People complaining about the 70 back benchers who have made sure that all of parliament get a say via a vote perhaps need to learn that they alternative until their rebellion was 15 people (the cabinet) making all decisions with no need to put it to any other MPs.

It is incredible that those 70 MPs are the only thing standing between us and a police state. Prior to their intervention, the cabinet (in fact the core cabinet of 4) could (and did) make decisions that the police were expected to enforce. That's a police state. Now at least such measures are subject to the oversight of parliament.