The government is encouraging covid spread in schools

[noblegiraffe]

Bear with me, because if they're not, you have to explain this:

1. Schools will stay fully open end of. Even when they're not.

1. No masks allowed in classrooms where teachers and pupils spend the most time. The expectation that they would be mandated in corridors is fudged at the last minute to lockdown areas only.

1. Pupils are not allowed to be tested for the symptoms that kids are most likely to get.

1. Teachers (who in secondary will teach all bubbles without masks) are not to self isolate if there is a case in a class they have taught.

1. Fudge any data that may show teachers getting ill at a higher rate than the general population and Chris Whitty lying about it

1. Fudge data that may show school pupils having a higher infection rate than the general population

1. Not permitting / trying / mass testing in schools where there have been cases in case they find out how bad the spread is.

1. Actually sending letter to parents to tell them to stop getting kids tested.

9 Fine parents who try and keep their kids off when in contact with a known positive case.

10. Launch a propaganda campaign to convince parents that schools are safe using data from schools in lockdown, which every news outlet dutifully publicises. Continuing that propaganda campaign by releasing a video of socially distanced school kids wearing masks in classrooms.

11. Hide Gavin Williamson in a cupboard so that no journalist can accidentally ask him how his aim to reopen schools safely is going.

12. Announce that one of the school safety measures will be children in bubbles which will burst when there are cases. Stop this midway through September and start sending home as few kids as possible. Remove the schools remit from PHE control and put DfE in charge to enforce this.

13. Produce a Tiered system of responses to infection levels (rotas, masks, closures) to reassure parents, and shut the unions up. Then never mention them again and in fact state that they are not to be used.

14. When Hull begs for rotas due to imminent collapse of system, send a letter to all local authorities re-iterating NO ROTAS

15. Have some strange control over the media so they don’t mention any issues, or if they do, it must be accompanied by a picture of a jumbo classroom containing max 5 kids.

16. Tell teachers to ignore the app when it tells them to isolate, or to turn off the app completely

17. No funding for schools to implement any covid safety measures

Any other explanations for this list?

[quote noblegiraffe]I’ve been trying to think how to communicate what the situation is on the ground in schools given that posters were shocked by the corridor photo.

Here’s the covid test. Teachers: please review how it has gone since September and calculate your covid score. 1 for a yes, 0 for a no. Total out of 20.

1. Been in a crowded corridor no mask

1. Been in a crowded corridor with (majority) masks

1. Had to send home a coughing/ill pupil from your class

1. Coughing/ill pupil not removed from your class

1. Had a pupil in your class test positive causing some/all students to isolate

1. Have at least one class where you cannot be >2m at all times

1. Had a

7 for me - primary, tier 1 as was - so no busy corridors to negotiate as the children don’t go anywhere through the building - this is countered by no social distancing at all from my class tho so might need a bonus point for that!

9 in sixth form college (so no fights!) and I only share a work space with two colleagues so lucky there - although a different department have had 6 people SI because they share an office.

9 for me.

14 for me, secondary school.

16 for me. Secondary. Nice quiz 😊

In the office i dont score for crowded corridors or sitting in with 30 people. But i am first aider for a year group bubble so can i have some points for a child spitting their wobbly tooth into my hand without warning; 3 nosebleeds, a vomit clear up and sitting with any if the children that have to go home ill.

11 here. 2 of them I can’t answer though l. 7 because we’re not told who the positive cases are. And 8 because we’ve been told to disable the app after it was ‘wrong’ in another trust school

@Napqueen1234 you're not listening. @noblegiraffe & all of us also don't want schools closed. We all hate remote teaching. But we want schools safer. Safer not closed.
It's v v simple.

12 T2 area

[quote Napqueen1234]@noblegiraffe I mean this kindly but I think all this is sending you insane. You’ve done so many posts and this one at 2am. Go to sleep. If you’re that stressed her signed off for a while with your GP. Think about a career change. All the teachers I know are desperate to stay in school they hated online teaching.[/quote]
I'm not desperate for schools to remain open in their current situation... and congrats to Noble for being so informed, committed and measured despite the lack of sleep

11 ticks on the quiz for me!

It is 8.05 pm now. I feel sure noble has had some kind of snooze.

@Napqueen1234 you should be ashamed of that post. Truly. There is nothing insane about questioning what is happening in schools. It is absolute gaslighting to make out that teachers raising legitimate concerns are somehow 'mentally ill'. It is disgusting. It's like the fucking emperor's new clothes here. We are not going to pretend the schools are swathed in gorgeous covid-proof clothes. They are bollock naked.

I'm a teacher and a parent. I want schools open; I have children of my own. I'd just prefer to have some safety measures beyond opening a window in my classes of 30+ teenagers.

@noblegiraffe keep posting. Sooner or later the journos / unions / employment lawyers will be looking for this data.

Waning schols to be safer /= wanting them closed.

Though it is not exactly unreasonable to say they should maybe close if the time/money will not be made available to actually make them as safe as possible.

@nobelgiraffe have you tried tweeting journos with what you have been finding?

My school hasn't had any positive cases yet (parents of kids, yes though) and I'm still at an 8 out of 20.

School is absolutely normal for me within my class. No social distancing can take place if learning and safe behaviour are going to happen.

The corridors are crowded at some transition points - mostly at break and lunches when we cross over in stair wells and things. It's been organised well, but still room for error. If someone is 1 minute late collecting a class, if a child takes 16 minutes to eat their lunch etc, then bubbles meet in corridors.

I sent several of these threads to my MP by the way. He just keeps writing back telling me schools are either covid-secure, or safe for children.

@Napqueen1234

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Pretty calm, pretty sure I’m not insane, and 2am is my usual bedtime on a weekend (1:30am on a school night). I really am a night owl, always have been.

It’s if you see me posting at 6am that you should be worried.

Oh, and I still want schools open.

10/20 for me - primary school in a tier 1 area. I don’t have the app so can’t answer that one. We have been instructed by SLT to disable the app in school in any event!

13/20 here

15 for me, secondary teacher, and we have been told to switch off the app so 15/19

"I mean this kindly," my arse.

When writing to an MP, has anyone tried pre-empting the inevitable cut & paste response by saying "please DON'T respond by telling me schools are the best place for children to be?"

[quote GhostTypeEevee]@nobelgiraffe have you tried tweeting journos with what you have been finding?[/quote]
I don’t tweet, interacting with Twitter looks like a bad idea!

I’m pretty sure journalists are getting hassled by teachers every time they post one of those socially distanced classroom pics and yet they still keep doing it!