The government is encouraging covid spread in schools

[noblegiraffe]

Bear with me, because if they're not, you have to explain this:

1. Schools will stay fully open end of. Even when they're not.

1. No masks allowed in classrooms where teachers and pupils spend the most time. The expectation that they would be mandated in corridors is fudged at the last minute to lockdown areas only.

1. Pupils are not allowed to be tested for the symptoms that kids are most likely to get.

1. Teachers (who in secondary will teach all bubbles without masks) are not to self isolate if there is a case in a class they have taught.

1. Fudge any data that may show teachers getting ill at a higher rate than the general population and Chris Whitty lying about it

1. Fudge data that may show school pupils having a higher infection rate than the general population

1. Not permitting / trying / mass testing in schools where there have been cases in case they find out how bad the spread is.

1. Actually sending letter to parents to tell them to stop getting kids tested.

9 Fine parents who try and keep their kids off when in contact with a known positive case.

10. Launch a propaganda campaign to convince parents that schools are safe using data from schools in lockdown, which every news outlet dutifully publicises. Continuing that propaganda campaign by releasing a video of socially distanced school kids wearing masks in classrooms.

11. Hide Gavin Williamson in a cupboard so that no journalist can accidentally ask him how his aim to reopen schools safely is going.

12. Announce that one of the school safety measures will be children in bubbles which will burst when there are cases. Stop this midway through September and start sending home as few kids as possible. Remove the schools remit from PHE control and put DfE in charge to enforce this.

13. Produce a Tiered system of responses to infection levels (rotas, masks, closures) to reassure parents, and shut the unions up. Then never mention them again and in fact state that they are not to be used.

14. When Hull begs for rotas due to imminent collapse of system, send a letter to all local authorities re-iterating NO ROTAS

15. Have some strange control over the media so they don’t mention any issues, or if they do, it must be accompanied by a picture of a jumbo classroom containing max 5 kids.

16. Tell teachers to ignore the app when it tells them to isolate, or to turn off the app completely

17. No funding for schools to implement any covid safety measures

Any other explanations for this list?

@VulvaPerson

One of my friends is adamant the schools/unis thing is herd immunity via backdoor. Reckons parents are likely to be younger, and this is a way to get people infected but largely keep it away from loder people if theres a lockdown also.

I don't think there is a plan as such. I think the government clearly know how unsafe schools actually are though, but would not want to face the reaction to closing them again, or admitting they are unsafe, or giving extra funding to try and help. So instead, the lies and manipulation. Shitty shitty way to run a country.

If the herd immunity plan is right, are they aiming to cull ECV parents at the same time, do ya think?

Or do they just think we are expendable?

@noblegiraffe

1. Been in a crowded corridor no mask

2. Been in a crowded corridor with (majority) masks

1. Had to send home a coughing/ill pupil from your class
2. Coughing/ill pupil not removed from your class
3. Had a pupil in your class test positive causing some/all students to isolate
4. Have at least one class where you cannot be >2m at all times
5. Had a

Score : 13

Independent secondary.

It’s not some master plan for herd immunity by the back door. It’s a total absence of planning that’s the problem.

You should go to the BBC OP.
Ido think it's odd though how the media aren't reporting it. The government must have ordered them not too.

14

If the herd immunity plan is right, are they aiming to cull ECV parents at the same time, do ya think?

Or do they just think we are expendable?

IF I believed it was the herd immunity thing rather than incompetance, cowardice and them being unwilling to fund needed changes, then I would say the second. Collateral damage.

@YellowPostItPad

You should go to the BBC OP. Ido think it's odd though how the media aren't reporting it. The government must have ordered them not too.

I have suspected a D notice for a long time on this one.

I can 100% see evidence of what @noblegiraffe is talking about in my school. Students and staff have tested positive ( both of which I have had contact with) but have been told not to isolate.

We were told on Friday that we can no longer be in a room with another member of staff without wearing a mask. And that if so there is never to be three members of staff in a room together.

Yet my Yr13 class can all sit in the common room without masks or social distancing- and hold massive parties at the weekend. But I can’t see my dad anymore because we know there is COVID in school but no one is getting tested.

It is a shit system.

We are a school with historically great staff wellbeing and retention and we’ve lost 10 staff already. It will be interesting after Spring half term If they can’t be replaced.

The bold ones: wouldn't they take away from your risk? And 15/16 seem very close, could be merged together?

I don’t think squeezing through crowds of pupils is a safe situation, even if they are wearing masks. The DfE propaganda video had an empty corridor with a single queue of kids waiting to go into a classroom.

15 - break up a fight - that would be very close physical contact with kids most likely unmasked. Not safe, reasonably common at secondary.

16. Bodily fluids - that’s a primary/SEN thing mostly. I don’t think they have time to react for the PPE before being spat at/sneezed on.

19/20 are more about how badly affected your school has been. The more covid, the less safe. Obviously it’s more safe after closure but it’s the before bit I’m thinking off.

Sorry I forgot ventilation, all my classrooms have windows #luxury

7 . Tier 2 in a small SEN school. We don't actually distance within our bubble but on the plus we have very small class sizes. There are more staff than there are students in our bubble.

@MrsHamlet

My score is only 7 I consider myself very lucky. Teaching only 6 groups probably helps!

It’s telling that you think you’re lucky when every item on that list is pretty crap.

@Augustbreeze I know, it's laughable isn't it? While I was off, working from home with Covid, I went through the risk assessment and highlighted all the things in it that we weren't able to actually do because of space, PPE, etc etc.To be fair they did make some changes but they changed the risk assessment to suit what we were doing, and did not correct the practices that were so risky,

There were a lot of bodily fluids about last week. But throwing up in the corridor / being unable to leave the loo for a considerable time / feeling sick all day aren't on the list of symptoms to test for even though they're known to be symptoms in children

Would it be okay if teachers were not paid if schools closed

I posted on the last thread. I've been isolating this past week and have taught all my lessons online. Some 3 hour classes, others 1.5 hours.

I've loved it. More prep involved but I felt safe, my students felt safe and warm and it worked really well. There are a few things I need to tweak to really get the best out of it but adapting and jumping through hoops is what we do best and I'd much prefer to keep doing it than go back to the classroom on Wednesday.

So yes, I'd like to still be paid

9 primary T1 prior to lockdown

11. Tier three area. Covid capital.

I am on 8 but my score is 'hampered' by multiple incidences on number 11.

We also need a 12a : colleague doesn't test even though displaying clear symptoms.

1. Tier 1 area before lockdown. I only work 2 days/week and teach 2 year groups.

28 - primary tier 1 prior to lockdown.

I think there are many school staff who would prefer to be furloughed than being put at risk. That would mean no remote teaching though as furloughed staff in other occupations aren't expected to work too.

The number of teaching jobs and even more school admin and TA jobs advertised in my LA is huge and far more than usual. Staff are getting out. An impending crisis in staffing for January onwards.

28!?

How is that even possible??

Lonely is that a typo, it’s out of 20. Only 1 point per question.

Sorry my post was connected to this Would it be okay if teachers were not paid if schools closed from Bridecilla

Miss read. Sorry 10