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What will cause greater harm to human life?

112 replies

Billie18 · 21/11/2020 18:47

What will cause greater harm to human life in the long term. Lockdowns or coronavirus?

OP posts:
Remmy123 · 21/11/2020 18:57

Lockdown for sure

BamboozledandBefuddled · 21/11/2020 19:12

Lockdown

SirFlouncealot · 21/11/2020 19:13

Lockdown

Spinakker · 21/11/2020 19:16

Lockdown. Its time we all woke up and reclaimed our lives. The covid tests are giving false positives, even nurses have testified that lots of the hospitals were empty during alot of this. None of these measures make sense now. We can't run from a virus. For most people it won't kill us and we need to build up our health with normal life socialising, exercise, being happy. Masking us up and locking us down will just plummet our immune systems. Destroying our economies - who benefits from that ask your self that?

Sirzy · 21/11/2020 19:17

Both pose a massive risk which is why it’s such a balancing act.

Acting too late with the lockdowns allows the virus to get more of a hold meaning the risks are increased for the virus AND lockdowns need to be longer to bring cases down

nancybotwinbloom · 21/11/2020 19:24

We should have one day a month or two days a month lockdown to try and help the climate

Berlioz23 · 21/11/2020 19:25

Not as simple as that I’m afraid. If you don’t lockdown COVID will run riot, NHS will be overwhelmed and we won’t be able to carry out normal treatments for cancer etc. I hear the argument that cancer treatments and screenings aren’t going ahead like usual but that would only get worse if COVID is increases. Mental health is a worry but wouldn’t it if thousands of people were dying each day, nothing like losing a loved one to COVID to make you feel ill. As we have good news about vaccines at the moment it’s worth sticking it out until we know more clearly what the situation will be about our futures.
Lastly the virus is usually put down as not too bad because it mainly kills old people. But death is the worst thing to happen, what about everything before that. What about long COVID, people in their 30s and 40s may have permanent damage to their lungs even though they’ve pulled through, what will their health be like when their older?

OpheliasCrayon · 21/11/2020 19:27

Lockdown

Thimbleberries · 21/11/2020 19:28

coronavirus, if you let it run riot, and if people are too wary of vaccines to take them. They need to understand the science a whole lot more and not rely on feelings or vague opinions.

lockdown will cause problems too, no doubt about it. But there would be an end in sight, with a vaccine, if people understand what is needed and if the infrastructure can be put in place to allow enough people to get it.

Juststopswimming · 21/11/2020 19:29

Lockdown, 100%

Newuser991 · 21/11/2020 19:29

Lockdown

floppybit · 21/11/2020 19:30

Lockdown

Stellaris22 · 21/11/2020 19:30

All the people saying lockdown, are you personally taking measures to do your bit to prevent further lockdowns?

Mask wearing, social distancing, sticking to household bubbles.

SirFlouncealot · 21/11/2020 19:33

All the people saying lockdown, are you personally taking measures to do your bit to prevent further lockdowns?

Yes and have been all along

MiniTheMinx · 21/11/2020 19:38

Well death is the greatest threat to human life. In the long term, if dead then you'll have been dead for that bit longer.

If the virus causes a huge number of deaths then this will effect us all at a psychological level and will impact the economy. If huge numbers of people have long covid then this will have huge impacts upon individuals lifetime wellbeing and the economy. If we continue to have lockdowns we trash the economy. There is no easy answer.

If we continue to to have lockdowns and the economy continues to contract then most of us will be feeling the effects for a very long time.

But then I think we have a social system (capitalism) that can not adequately respond to put human life first. And its a flawed system when humans have created this system but it fails to support the very basics......ie human life.

I also worry about the damage it is doing to the way people communicate, and how people behave in common spaces. This is not natural and goes against every instinct, and what it is to be human.

I also worry about how easily we have been convinced to give up certain freedoms and civil liberties and whether Covid fear could be used as an ongoing onslaught into public and private life.

But right here, right now I worry mostly that we need to protect human life, and since human lives can not be rated in terms of significant or value, we need measures that prevent as many preventable daeths as possible.

Redbrickwall · 21/11/2020 19:38

Lockdowns

MiniTheMinx · 21/11/2020 19:40

significance or value, we need measures that prevent as many preventable deaths as possible

AdelaideK · 21/11/2020 19:40

Lockdown.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 21/11/2020 19:41

Lockdown

clopper · 21/11/2020 19:45

minitheminx
I also worry about the damage it is doing to the way people communicate, and how people behave in common spaces. This is not natural and goes against every instinct, and what it is to be human.

I also worry about how easily we have been convinced to give up certain freedoms and civil liberties and whether Covid fear could be used as an ongoing onslaught into public and private life.

This so lockdowni think is worse now.

FirstClassFlightHome · 21/11/2020 19:46

I know (through a friend) a doctor who caught Covid in March. He is only 36 and fit. However, Covid caused him to have an epileptic fit and heart problems.

The result is, he has lost his job due to the heart problems and will probably never work again. And also the fit means that he can’t drive and given his rural location, this is disastrous.

It’s not just old people; it’s not just flu. This is serious guys.

Lindy2 · 21/11/2020 19:47

Lockdown, but if we hadn't had lockdown the virus would have run unchecked and decimated many lives. We had 2 poor options and chose the right one IMO.

If the vaccines work and we get a much closer to normal life next year I think employment and the economy will boom. The impact of lockdown can be overcome in time. Many more people dead or with post viral long term health conditions because of not locking down couldn't be undone.

magnarocks · 21/11/2020 19:54

I think it's very easy to say lockdown unless you have personally been affected by COVID e.g. it's made you very unwell or caused the loss of someone close to you.

Flyonawalk · 21/11/2020 19:56

Lockdown, 100%.

It has been calculated that austerity measures have cost tens of thousands of premature deaths because off lower spending on health and social care. We will need austerity measures for decades to correct current U.K. debt.

I believe that our response to the virus will be judged to have killed far more people than the virus itself. Time will tell and history will judge.

Stellaris22 · 21/11/2020 19:59

I don't believe 'covid fear' is a thing (although it can cause extreme anxieties) more it's just people being rightly cautious and sensible. It's quite insulting to have it ridiculed like this.

I don't want another lockdown so will be sticking to mask wearing, social distancing and our personal household bubble. I don't care for or particularly follow government rules/advice as a lot of it is non sensical. But basic common sense is needed.

All the people complaining about lockdowns and giving up rights too easily, are you sticking to mask wearing etc or are you the type of person causing a lockdown.

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