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Apparently new daily cases have stabilised. Did we lockdown too soon?

75 replies

Hyperbolistic · 07/11/2020 11:11

Just this. Are businesses just on the brink of recovery being ruined because we're being too cautious?

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DenimDrift · 07/11/2020 11:12

What do you mean ‘apparently’?

Says who? Where?

Aposterhasnoname · 07/11/2020 11:12

Yes

PicsInRed · 07/11/2020 11:14

Yes. You only need to look at Boris to see that fear has overtaken him in a way which is not conducive to good, calm, rational leadership.

He panicked.

Frazzled2207 · 07/11/2020 11:19

No. Should have done it ages ago (but we would have got away with 2 weeks instead of 4 and ideally closing the schools too). Instead cities in the north are bursting with covid patients.
However I agree there seems to be a flattening. That isn’t good enough though, hopefully the next 4 weeks will help bring cases down a notch.

LauraBassi · 07/11/2020 11:19

Ah your asking the wrong crowd here!

Expect to be called a liar and murderer ..

Hyperbolistic · 07/11/2020 11:20

I agree Boris bowed under pressure to lockdown (fear, following France and Germany, Wales and Scotland) and now the country is completely screwed.

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FractionalGains · 07/11/2020 11:23

Could this have anything to do with half term and it will pick up again as the schools went back? Hopefully not, hopefully it was a natural peak 🤞🏼

eggofmantumbi · 07/11/2020 11:23

I read that cases had stabilised, but in the UK. Which makes me think the measures the nations other than England took have had a positive impact on the figures for the UK as a whole.

Delatron · 07/11/2020 11:24

Yes I think it takes times for the tier system to kick in and work and it had just started to. Deaths were not approaching the 1000 per day levels predicted. He based his decisions on some dodgy modelling and fear.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 07/11/2020 11:35

The fact that new cases have stabilised will have a lot to do with the schools being shut for half term. If your solution is that schools should be shut but everything else should remain open, then you may need your hard hat.

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 07/11/2020 11:35

@Hyperbolistic

I agree Boris bowed under pressure to lockdown (fear, following France and Germany, Wales and Scotland) and now the country is completely screwed.
Scotland isn't locked down.
IcedPurple · 07/11/2020 11:40

@Hyperbolistic

I agree Boris bowed under pressure to lockdown (fear, following France and Germany, Wales and Scotland) and now the country is completely screwed.
Yes I think there is a lot of 'collective thinking' going on. It will be interesting to see what historians make of this period.
Hyperbolistic · 07/11/2020 11:41

@RafaIsTheKingOfClay schools were only closed for a week. The only DC I know who have tested positive for CV did so over half term so I don't think your theory is correct.

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IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 07/11/2020 11:41

No, I think it was too late rather too soon.

I think a lot of people just won’t have got tested over half term so they didn’t have to isolate and could go out and about sadly.

Sweetnhappy1 · 07/11/2020 11:50

No. There's no point waiting until the horse has bolted before shutting the stable door.

(1) The NHS in parts of England (especially the North) is rammed and cancelling routine stuff again. Too many Covid patients = not much else can get done because of the risk of contracting Covid in hospital.

(2) 100,000 less tests were done last week compared to the week before. Funnily enough if you do less tests, you get less positives (who'd have thunk it?).

(3) If we'd locked down sooner like Wales, we could have locked down for a shorter length of time (like Wales) and this shorter lock down would have been better for the economy. We've left it pretty late this time.

(4) France, Spain, Germany etc all seemed to have a plateau in their rate for a few days before it continued increasing exponentially, that might happen here it's too early to say.

Our lockdown end date seems to coincide with the projected rollout of the Covid vaccine for the over 85s. If less people catch it who are risk of needing hospitalisation, we can go back to normal quicker.

kittensarecute · 07/11/2020 11:55

I don't think we needed to lock down at all but there we are.

PinkFondantFancy · 07/11/2020 11:55

Yep, I think so. The tier system was working, but he was bounced into a decision and bottled it

Waxonwaxoff0 · 07/11/2020 12:02

Yes, they didn't give the tier system long enough. I'm in Nottingham where we went into tier 2 early on and cases dramatically decreased even before we went into tier 3.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 07/11/2020 12:10

Ok so cases up slightly. 1% ish
Deaths up
Hospital admissions up
Testing down by 8% ish

So a bit too early to draw any conclusions.

Itisasecret · 07/11/2020 12:17

[quote Hyperbolistic]@RafaIsTheKingOfClay schools were only closed for a week. The only DC I know who have tested positive for CV did so over half term so I don't think your theory is correct.[/quote]
They were not. Here and other LA’s they were shut for two. Also the half term was unusually staggered in England. It was spread out over three weeks.

All paths showing a decrease in transmission, whilst all the schools in England were enjoying staggered half term certainly tells a story. Let’s see where we are in two to three weeks.

Cookerhood · 07/11/2020 12:21

Cases were falling before the tier system in places like Liverpool, Manchester & Nottingham. Having lockdown now means they can say it has worked. Cases will rise again over Christmas then we'll be in a cycle of lockdowns.

Ilikewinter · 07/11/2020 12:26

I live in a Machester borough, cases have been either plateauing or decreasing in most boroughs for the last couple of weeks...but i still believe we will come out of lockdown and go back into tier 3 until the new year.
I think we should have lockdown before the half term holidays.

Scarby9 · 07/11/2020 12:29

Surely this is one of those cases where you only know you were right when it looks as if you didn't need to act after all.
Eg. Lock down to prevent cases surging and overwhelming of NHS. Cases stop surging and NHS not overwhelmed = we didn't need a lockdown.

WhoWants2Know · 07/11/2020 12:31

Schools in around half of the country closed a week for half term, followed the next week by schools in the test of the country. It allowed for a brief break in transmission that is visible this week.

I would be surprised if the numbers are still stable in two weeks time.

Mindymomo · 07/11/2020 12:32

Hospitals in the north have cancelled routine operations and over 1500 admissions yesterday, so they haven’t stabilised.