Vaccine would you??

[Christmasfairy2020]

Hi
So I was speaking with a relative (NHS professional) yesterday whom was discussing the anticipated vaccine. So we are in lockdown and things wont change really til we get a vaccine. Yet lots of people you talk to do not want the vaccine.

So would you have the vaccine tomorrow if it was available to everyone
Yea - ofcourse I would and my children as well.

No - I want more research first

Damn right I will. I'm not scared of vaccines. They are highly regulated and tested.

Yes

Yes

Absolutely not.

Yes, so will immuno suppressed dh.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-02/china-s-race-for-first-covid-19-vaccine-raises-safety-questions

Absolutely yes.
I'm 60 with underlying health conditions including asthma & an Early years teacher, going to work is scary for me now.
I'm very much hoping I'll be near the top of the list once it's available.

No

Absolutely yes.
I find it really alarming how many people are saying no based on misinformation and because they don't understand the testing process.
There needs to be some educating done via widestream media to reach these people.
At least then they can make an informed choice.

I volunteered for the trials and have just registered with the clinic doing the trials at our local hospital.

I've never turned down a vaccine before so more than likely yes, but I think I would try to do some research on it first. I also suspect I wouldn't be in the group offered it.

Persuading my almost 13yo with a massive needle phobia to have it would be very difficult. Her year all missed their HPV vaccine last year due to lockdown and she's still panicking about when it will be rescheduled.

Yes

In Oxford trial and have had 2 doses of either the vaccine or the control. Obviously I don't know which.

I am not dead, have had no ill effects and have not had COVID.

I signed up as soon as it was offered
It's a balance of risks issue:

Do you want to take the risk that there is some unknown bad outcome of the vaccine that hasn't shown itself despite 1000s of people having had it?
Or
Do you want to take the well known (although small) risk that you might die of COVID, be seriously ill or have long term disabling damage should you be infected?

My weigh up is that the vaccine is obviously safer than the disease as it is for all licensed vaccines.

Even if immunity to natural infection wanes it does not hold that immunity to the vaccine will. Viruses have evolved not to provoke an immune response whereas a vaccine is designed to produce one. There is also T cell immunity which lasts longer than antibiodies

Even if it does wane or the virus evolves like flu then I'll just get a new vaccine every year like I do for flu.

I am betting a dime to a dozen that all these reluctant people will have the vaccine like a shot if it's the price of a foreign holiday. They won't do it for their fellow man but if it's for 2 weeks on the Costa Brava they'd get it.

Vaccination is our ticket out.
(Has no-one seen Contagion 😆)
Otherwise it's repeated lockdowns and restrictions forever and/ or a huge death toll and a grim time for the NHS and care workers

[quote Dongdingdong]www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-02/china-s-race-for-first-covid-19-vaccine-raises-safety-questions[/quote]
What relevance does this have?

@MaryShelley1818

Absolutely yes. I find it really alarming how many people are saying no based on misinformation and because they don't understand the testing process. There needs to be some educating done via widestream media to reach these people. At least then they can make an informed choice.

This. I am really beginning to despair.

Yes, I also volunteered for the studies but wasn't picked.

I would probably caveat this with saying yes to one that has developed in the EU/US setting and undergone full testing and regulatory process through FDA/EMA etc. Which the ones from e.g. AZ, Pfizer et al have. For obvious reasons, I don't have the same level of trust and faith in what is coming out of China and Russia, so would say no until there was a better understanding of those.

But AZ, Pfizer, J&J, Sanofi.....my sleeve is rolled up ready. Although I'll be waiting a while as under 50. I'll pay if it is available privately though, as I currently do for flu jab (although my workplace reimburse that).

@Sunshinegirl82 thanks, I’ll take a look.

Also yes to this. The phrase 'it's been rushed through so can't possibly be safe' is thrown around as if it means anything at all, but when you ask people which particular parts of the testing process have been rushed or not done properly, or how safety has been compromised, they have no answers. Because there are none.

@Deliaskis

Also yes to this. The phrase 'it's been rushed through so can't possibly be safe' is thrown around as if it means anything at all, but when you ask people which particular parts of the testing process have been rushed or not done properly, or how safety has been compromised, they have no answers. Because there are none.

Eeek....this was meant to quote @MaryShelley1818!

Probably not but I had a severe allergic reaction to the last vaccine I had as a young child and haven’t had any since. I’d have to be convinced that covid was more of a threat to my health than anaphylaxis, especially as my other allergies have got worse with age.

Yes! We all will. My vulnerable parents too. It can’t come soon enough- we need life back again

No.
Someone upthread remarked that those who decline will find travel is restricted, which bothers me not one jot. I'm interested to know whether there's a genuine chance of that happening and what other restrictions, if any, may be put upon non-compliers.

No

I would yes if it means we can get our lives back. I wouldn't let my kids have it though.

No.
Someone upthread remarked that those who decline will find travel is restricted, which bothers me not one jot. I'm interested to know whether there's a genuine chance of that happening and what other restrictions, if any, may be put upon non-compliers.

I suppose some countries will have that rule but there will only be a relatively small number of vaccines available at first so that would be a lot of people unable to travel.
These threads always seem to assume that everyone is going to be offered a vaccine and given the chance to turn it down. I don't expect that I'll ever be offered one. It's possible my dh might be offered one about a year after it's produced due to his asthma.

@LeSquigh

No, I won't. I am not an anti vaxxer, I have paid for my kids to have the chicken pox vaccine on top of the ones that the NHS provides, however a vaccine normally goes through a lot more trials than this will and i am not going to subject myself or my kids to a vaccine with unknown long term side effects, especially when none of us are in an at risk group. As a PP said, I would also like to see how this goes five or ten years from now.

I believe that the fastest vaccine ever created so far was for mumps and that took 4? years. I have also read (and am happy to be corrected) that there has never been a vaccine for any of the other human coronaviruses so it may be a lot more difficult to create one than we might be led to believe.

I am also very confused as to how a vaccine can be created when antibodies don't seem to hanging around for very long. I am quite uneducated on this but isn't that how vaccines work?

You didn’t need to point out that you have a lack of education on this issue as it’s clearly evident from your post.