I am special/exempt/don’t have to follow the lockdown rules because......

[Watermelon999]

Just waiting for all of the above to start...

What reasons will be bandied about this time? And when will people realise that the more of us that do it, the quicker it will be over?

[yawnsvillex]

Because I don't care ....

[MoonJelly]

The moaner on my Twitter feed is saying how utterly dreadful it is that she can't go to the gym, run, etc, how will she survive. When asked why she couldn't run, she said "Because it's cold and wet outside". FFS.

[islockdownoveryet]

Yeah the having a garden wont make much difference this time with it being November.
Fortunately I enjoy getting outside for exercise regardless of the weather but I don't expect my kids too .
I think we have different kinds of people
Those that are very worried and following the rules strictly.
Those that aren't worried but are following the rules as best they can .
Those that aren't worried too much and are trying to live life and will break the rules when it suits .
Those that aren't worried at all and break the rules because and I quote it's just flu ! and because they just don't care .

[MushMonster]

Cummings is number one reason in the world! It is not out of fashion yet, it will linger longer than long covid.
I am exempt because"this are rules/guidance, no law" is my favourite so far

[realitychick67]

@SeverusSnape1

Apologies, I forgot no one cares about suicides since only covid deaths matter now.

Yes they do.
@SeverusSnape1 I'm sorry you're struggling.

[Orcus]

@user1471588124

Because my minimum wage, stressful and essential job pays so little i have no choice but to live in a mouldy house share with strangers, so cant even bubble with my partner of 2 years. I cant legally see anyone i know apart from outside at 2m distance and as a young person i am terrified about the future and cant see a day were i will be able to rent, let alone buy my own place. The only thing that will get me and millions of others through winter is an occasional hug from someone i know and if that makes me selfish so be it.

I think its more selfish to expect people on minimum wage essential jobs, to sacrifice not only our health and our futures, but also the bare minimum social interaction because the system means we cant afford to live in anything other then cramped, unsafe housing and so cant even form support bubbles.

Maybe actually think about what some people, who are at very low risk of dying from covid are being asked to do. Its not about wanting other people to die, its about the fact that humans are social animals and need some social interaction from people they know, even if they are young and poor.

Shush OP, your situation is inconvenient to people who want to indulge in smug twattery. Best make sure they don't have to think about the likes of you.

[whiteroseredrose]

Does anyone know what the penalties are for non compliance?

I think it was £200 for not wearing a mask (though I don't think people can ask why you're not wearing one) and £1000 for not self isolating when you've been told to, increasing up to £10,000 for repeat offenses.

Have we been told yet?

[DisgruntledGuineaPig]

@TiersTiersTiers - I've told my dcs they cant see their classmates outside of school anymore, but I do struggle with the idea that children can be in the same room together all day at school/ playing together in the school playground at break time /lunchtime, and that's safe, yet it only becomes a problem when they play together outside of school. If they've not caught it from each other by 3:20pm, why does it suddenly become a risk at 3:21pm.

[52andblue]

@burritofan

Although the ethics of people who take up more housing than they need is for another thread....
I think the Venn diagram of “people with second homes” and “people who are soooo special they can bend the Covid rules” is a circle. A circle full of Tories

I need an Eye Test ???

[SeverusSnape1]

@Watermelon999 what is your response to me and @user1471588124 ?

[KitKatastrophe]

And when will people realise that the more of us that do it, the quicker it will be over?
Never because this is not true. Maybe this lockdown wi be over more quickly but then it's just a matter of time before the next one. Covid wont be "over" any sooner if people follow the rules.

[KitKatastrophe]

@TiersTiersTiers

It's a climbing holiday and we are away from everyone else.... I'm

It's my holiday home and when I get there I will lockdown ...blah de blah de blah...

But surely 'children don't count' when meeting multiple friends for a walk...

You cannot make me chose who to have in my support bubble so I will have as many bubbles as I want because I'm special...

It's an extra special 40th birthday party so the rules don't apply because my second cousin Fred said so... anyway no-one follows the rules so why should I....

etc.... etc..... etc.....

Children don't count (if under school age)

[XingMing]

I shall be exercising alone at home in a Zoom class at least twice a week, and my dog will need an hour's walk every single day. But I shall be alone. I am not special or exempt, but I want this virus to go away, so I will follow the guidelines as if I were instructed by Beijing.

I do not care a flying fuck if you choose to disregard the rules; I just hope I don't know you or have to talk to you.

[OpheIiaBaIls]

@Bathroom12345

I agree with most of what has been said. What is it about people who just HAVE to go to the supermarket with the whole family. My DS was working in a large store during the last lockdown. There were signs up stating that they would really appreciate just one shopper per family but at least 50% of people just had to do it together. It buggers up the queuing as well. If 60 people are allowed in the store at one time surely it is obvious that if you selfishly insist on going with partner/kids etc then the queue takes longer to go down.

Some people have to go to the shops with children. If they're too young to be left alone or there's noone to look after them what choice do they have?

Also some people can't shop alone because they have health issues which prevent it.

You can't possibly know someone's circumstances just by looking at them so it's probably best not to judge.

[MyPersona]

Also some people can't shop alone because they have health issues which prevent it.*

My mum couldn’t shop alone because she needed someone to push her wheelchair. In the current circumstances the person capable of pushing the wheelchair would have done the shopping.

[Nettleskeins]

People like you, OP, are the reason that those are genuinely are exempt are too frightened to leave the house, won't let their kids leave the house, and continue in intolerable circs with mentally unstable children, partners, and elderly relatives, from whom they allow themselves no respite.
Give yourself a pat on the back.it isn't called the "thought"police for nothing.
The RL police are much more empathetic

[WhoseThatGirl]

‘I’m in a social bubble with another family’ - genuinely said to me recently (Neither are single parents).

[Bollss]

@Watermelon999

Just waiting for all of the above to start...

What reasons will be bandied about this time? And when will people realise that the more of us that do it, the quicker it will be over?

Nobody believes that any more though. Compliance was really high last time and it lasted fucking ages and here we are again.

[WorriedMummy2020]

And 'But I need X,Y,Z from the non-essential items list in the shops' too if Wales is anything to go by!

[Qasd]

😂😂! It will not be over quickly if you comply, I am so surprised people still think that. It may be over at some point if there is sufficient medical advancements nothing you do will impact on the time it takes to be over unless you are involved in scientific research in which case thank you for everything you do!

[Pumpertrumper]

In all fairness I think some people will genuinely struggle to know what to do in their situations. It’s not always black and white.

I followed the rules first time to the absolute letter, despite having just given birth days before and struggling a lot.
This time I’m in the early stages of another pregnancy and horribly sick. Already been In hospital once last week and will no doubt land there again soon. DH is a front line medic who works 60+ hours a week and can’t have time off as dangerously understaffed (due to colleagues having to isolate). I’m not able to care for teething DS alone. I’m a mess. So my DM is gonna have to ‘move in’ and help. Although she’s also caring for my super elderly gran and cancer patient DF. So she’s not exactly going to be here all the time.

Yes loopholes. Not sure what else we are supposed to do!

[Nettleskeins]

How do you whether that climbing holiday is the only holiday someone has had all year? Is it worse than someone going to a garden centre? Sorry to say we are allowed to buy bulbs, completely non essential of course...but perhaps holistic...goodness, I suppose walking comes into that category too, do we really need to do it when there are online exercise classes?
Bog off

[Orcus]

Some people have to go to the shops with children. If they're too young to be left alone or there's noone to look after them what choice do they have?

Also some people can't shop alone because they have health issues which prevent it.

You can't possibly know someone's circumstances just by looking at them so it's probably best not to judge.

And there's also no lockdown rule about shopping alone, in any case. I knew as soon as I saw this thread that it wouldn't be long before someone turned up who didn't understand the difference between rules and not rules.

[Topseyt]

@Watermelon999

Just waiting for all of the above to start...

What reasons will be bandied about this time? And when will people realise that the more of us that do it, the quicker it will be over?

It isn't going to be over. The virus isn't going anywhere.

We may get a vaccine sometime hopefully early next year but there is debate as to how long antibodies last and about T cells.

All we can hope to do is smooth out the worst of any peaks.

[Fizbosshoes]

I'm wondering when people will start making up extra rules like last time
eg you could only exercise for an hour, or you had to stay within x miles of your house.

Some of these were rules in other countries but not in England. I remember a newspaper article about Gordon Ramsay (I'm not esp a fan of his) being outraged because he went on a bike ride that was more than an hour....