Lockdown: You can meet up with someone else but what about kids?

[Sundiamond]

So, I could meet up with someone else for a walk.

What about my primary aged child? He can't go alone. So, this means I can go but he can't go?

I am sure that nobody would count a pre-walking baby kept in a pram or carrier as a “person” in this situation!
Just meet up with another mum - it’s crucial for mums with small babies.

Oh dear. What’s the point in destroying all those businesses and livelihoods for this half-hearted lockdown, where people are actively searching for loopholes to allow them to see others.

My nephew (17) has caused a right hoo-hah for his parents as he’s refusing to stay in again saying ‘if I can see them in school, what’s the difference?

I’m a teacher having to (like other key workers) put my health and the health of my family at risk to go to work, when others are worried about how to dodge the rules and police. And that’s not the worst; some people will outright lose their jobs.

There will be little point in this lockdown and it’s going to hurt certain sectors of working society for very little reason. What a shame.

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?

No. It annoys me when people post things which are incorrect without bothering to check they’re right first.

People are spreading this exercise thing all over the site.

I am still meeting my friend for a walk. We both rang each other last night and agreed we will be there for each other. Her baby is in a buggy, my baby is in a buggy, screw it. I am not sitting in when others can go out because they are lucky enough not to be tied to a child 24/7. I am capable of using my head. We will keep 2ms, wont be hugging or anything silly like that. We will be walking around a park, and it will be the only thing that keeps me sane as she will be my only source of conversation for the month, day in, day out.

I REFUSE to go crazy with loneliness for a second time this year, not when I have a brain in my head. No way.

@museumum

I am sure that nobody would count a pre-walking baby kept in a pram or carrier as a “person” in this situation! Just meet up with another mum - it’s crucial for mums with small babies.

That's the problem our Government absolutely do count a pre walking baby as a person. They count from the day they are born and it's beyond stupid that there is no exceptions for infants.

@DBML

Oh dear. What’s the point in destroying all those businesses and livelihoods for this half-hearted lockdown, where people are actively searching for loopholes to allow them to see others.

My nephew (17) has caused a right hoo-hah for his parents as he’s refusing to stay in again saying ‘if I can see them in school, what’s the difference?

I’m a teacher having to (like other key workers) put my health and the health of my family at risk to go to work, when others are worried about how to dodge the rules and police. And that’s not the worst; some people will outright lose their jobs.

There will be little point in this lockdown and it’s going to hurt certain sectors of working society for very little reason. What a shame.

A person taking their small child with them while they meet up with another person outdoors instead of going alone is not going to change any of this, though.

What’s the point in destroying all those businesses and livelihoods for this half-hearted lockdown, where people are actively searching for loopholes to allow them to see others.

Sorry but I refused to be blamed for destroying businesses and livelihoods simply because I had the misfortune to have a baby just before a global pamdemic and I might at some point want to meet up and talk to someone who isn't 10 months old. My mental health matters just as much as someone's business and given I've alreadyost my job thanks to covid I don't think a parent of a small child wanting human interaction is unreasonable.

I didn't mean to sound so preachy in my post. I'm not meeting anyone for a walk because that's what the rules say I should do. I, however, don't necessarily agree with it.

The statement about childcare is to show the ridiculousness of it. My parents provide childcare in their home for my children, but now cannot meet up with me and the children outside with this new rule. I now have to go without meeting up with any other people for a month.

I am not a good mother, I do not do well without any other adult interaction. And my boss on Skype once a week doesn't count.

Again, I know there has to be a line drawn somewhere and there cannot be a rule to suit all but it doesn't mean I can't be upset about it.

@DBML - I'm not looking to flout rules. I have absolute respect for all the key workers putting themselves out there for us. I'm merely questioning the logic - once again - of some of these decisions.

I pray it will make a difference to the numbers. I really do.

The wording is so odd.

It says meet 1 other person if you are alone, suggesting support bubble type interaction for exercise but then says 'outdoor recreation or exercise' like its ok to go out for the day but also says you should only leave the house for essentials only......

@Orcus

I disagree.

And what about teachers (sorry I can only comment on what I know)? I have to go to work and spend all day with kids. Is that my ‘socialising allowance’ spent? Do I get to go meet an adult on the way home from work? Perhaps I could meet a different friend every day? Or are the mums here expecting me to make sacrifices so I can stay in school watching their kids (who are apparently poor company) whilst they go out to meet a friend during a lockdown?
A young teacher has just died of Covid and people are worrying about their babies being shit company.

@LittleMissLockdown

Did you read what you just wrote??? FFS

It’s going to be a long month for those of us at home with DC.

Mumsnet is full of people trying to find exemptions or holes in the rules so thats why it has to be black and white

If they said yes a mum and baby can meet up with one other, it would become two mums and two babies. If they made the rule toddlers, You would then have posts about whats the difference between my 20 month old compared to an 18 month old.

There has to be a line somewhere unfortunately

@user1493413286

So what? It’ll be a long month for NHS workers on the front line.

It’ll be a long month for teachers spending all day with only your kids.

It’ll be a long month for a lot of people. I know where I’d rather be for it though, in my home safe.

[quote DBML]@LittleMissLockdown

Did you read what you just wrote??? FFS[/quote]
Yes I read what I just wrote, what a stupid question. Honestly its like people think postnatal depression is a bloody myth. I'd be honestly amazed to meet anyone who has had babies just before or during the pandemic who wasn't suffering with serious mental health problems as a result of isolation and loneliness. Why does covid matter more than people's mental health?

@LittleMissLockdown

Then phone a helpline or speak to your GP. But your MH doesn’t trump my physical safety either.

It’ll be a long month for a lot of people. I know where I’d rather be for it though, in my home safe.

Can’t you understand that for some people, being home is utterly miserable and very difficult? Meeting someone outdoors is very low risk which is why it is allowed.

[quote DBML]@LittleMissLockdown

Then phone a helpline or speak to your GP. But your MH doesn’t trump my physical safety either.[/quote]
I wish speaking with my GP was possible but they are preoccupied with the pandemic and health visitors seemed to have vanished. What people need is to be able to speak to and see a real person and now once again those with small children cannot do that.

No one is talking at school gates here. They just stand there with masks in queues. Just the occaisional quick hushed chat. It's bloody weird.

@PurpleDaisies

Can you understand that being in a cold classroom due to the open windows and doors rule, with 35 children and no social distancing is miserable...and anxiety inducing...and I have other people I’d MUCH rather be seeing than your kids?
I haven’t seen my parents or 90 year old grandad in months.

[quote DBML]@PurpleDaisies

Can you understand that being in a cold classroom due to the open windows and doors rule, with 35 children and no social distancing is miserable...and anxiety inducing...and I have other people I’d MUCH rather be seeing than your kids?
I haven’t seen my parents or 90 year old grandad in months.[/quote]
Yes. I also a teacher.

Teachers are still allowed to see people outside school.

What about secondary school children? My daughter walks to school with 3 others (all in a school bubble) is that still allowed?

Theres already people saying about 2 year olds. If the rule was 3 year olds then people would be arguing about their 4 year olds and so on until they are arguing about teens

There will never be a line where people agree to fall either side of it.