To think schools should be shut during lockdown.

[Ilovegreentomatoes]

So shutting down everything but keeping schools open.AIBU to think that a lockdown should involve schools closing as well.Have been about six cases in my dds secondary zero social distancing and is just defeating the object of a lockdown as it has now been proven that schools,colleges etc can easily spread the virus.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

far more sympathy for them than those who try and pretend their kids are suffering horribly if schools are closed (usually the ones who could do it but just can't handle their kids being at home - probably the same ones that sneer at stay at home mums)

Pretending?? Oh yes because nobodies kids suffered did they

Ha, yes, exactly. No no, it was fine! Everybody's kids just loved lockdown and there were no problems at all. Also no significant impacts to education, well nothing they couldn't catch up in a week. Makes you wonder why we even bother with a state education system at all really, clearly children would be just fine with no peer interaction watching TV endlessly for months and that would certainly be a lot cheaper for the government to provide...

Enough suffering here for you? www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/teachers-search-for-lost-children-of-covid-bgjkbmpz5?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=newsletter_101&utm_medium=email&utm_content=101_10859937&CMP=TNLEmail_7172239_10859937_101&fbclid=IwAR2NGLG3aCZQX_0WpVgVWqg1E1QTHwiwAN_7C-yZnI6wCDNQY5dsIkqP4qo

@TheKeatingFive definitely agree that people not visiting households is definitely reducing the cases
significantly

@BurningMam

This thread is 99% "I don't care that lockdown is pointless, schools should stay open because it's inconvenient for me if they close".

Absolutely. We all need to think beyond our own bubbles and of the longer term . The economy is damaged either way

@Missandra

Seriously, bore off

Pathetic.. no other words

Or here? Is this enough suffering? www.thetimes.co.uk/article/parents-of-disabled-children-pray-for-the-end-of-each-day-during-lockdown-g3mbvt882

The sanctimonious twats begging for schools to be shut can’t see beyond the end of their own noses.

And people also need to think beyond their own bubble and realise that others don’t have the flexibility that they might have. These posters short and long term financial stability will the one of the most important things to them. And I include myself as one of those people.

A complete lock down is the RIGHT THING.. but should have been done two weeks ago.. LOCKDOWN now without schools is a useless attempt at trying to please some of the people some of the time ...

Bailey0703 so no primary school age kids for you?

@kingpingu disgusting comment.
Of course those of us who work with children want to do our jobs. But we do feel some anxiety about how safe we are? Is that not permitted? Is that not understandable? We don't even have PPE.
We also didn't go into education or childcare to have our lives put at risk. We're not in the armed forces ffs.
So please lay off with the attacking comments.

@Missandra

Seriously, bore off

A million times this.

Blended learning currently is a joke. Massive inequality in online provision. Some schools offering full timetable of live lessons, others only putting worksheets on Google Classroom once a week.

Y9-13 in Wales are online learning next week, and the pupils at the best schools will likely have high quality synchronous learning, whilst the schools lower in the league tables will get a couple of homework exercises and no marking /feedback.

And whilst unions seem to be saying that teachers shouldn't have to provide live lessons, blended learning won't be successful and schools are more likely to need to stay open.

Honestly, I know loads of people with children and no it wasn’t possible to provide good cover remotely to classes of 25 plus , not at all actually.

I dont want to see any newspapers with the headline 'national lockdown ' tomorrow. This is less of a lockdown than March and hardly a lockdown with schools open. Pointless.

I can't take 4 weeks off work as of Thursday next week. As annual leave or unpaid leave. Not possible with my company. I could do a day here and there but definitely not 4 weeks. I do work from home but cannot do my job with a 4 year old at home. Tried it last lockdown and everyone ended up frustrated and unhappy and stressed.

Oh and saying if you can't look after your own kids for 4 weeks then you probably shouldn't have had kids is probably the stupidest thing I've read. I'll just send my kid back shall I? Just un-have him? Problem solved!

'BurningMam'. What a strange thing to say 'If you're a TA'. I am a TA and I work in a state school which has had an 'Outstanding' rating from Ofsted for many years. Pupils cannot keep socially distanced in classrooms of course but they do not face each other and teaching staff do not routinely go within two metres of the pupils or each other. If they do need to help an individual pupils they stand next to rather than facing a student, wear a mask or visor and minimise the time spent there. Two meter markings are on all spaces, staircases, disinfectant wipes at the entrance to every room as are hand sanitisers. Not only is what I wrote possible, I can assure you that I see and help it happen and it is very stressful but knowing a stranger questions whether I am a TA or a liar is something I have no control over

I just feel if we keep schools open better not to impose a lockdown at all just carry on with this tier crap and be done with it.

@Fortherosesjoni70

Eh? We look after them 365 days a year thanks. However, we're both contracted to work outside the home for 260 days per year.
The luxury of 4 weeks off (or two weeks each) to cover a school shut down is a luxury we don't have after an 11 week lockdown in the same holiday year. Our 5 weeks holiday each doesn't even cover school hols but we juggle and manage. We both work in businesses hanging on by a thread so even unpaid time off would likely go against us.
That coupled with the low number of cases in the school makes it a bad idea to me.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I can't work with them pesky around

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Also there’s a lot of talk about vitriol towards teachers but I’ve seen so much against working parents from teachers . I had no idea there was so much resentment,I’ve seen frequent comments along the lines of “I’m putting my life at risk to babysit your little darlings etc” or “jokes” about how parents now get an idea of how hard it is to teach when they had to do it during lockdown .... I worked for years in secondary schools and PRUs in the Uk and was well able , all the energy in the world , discipline was sometimes tricky but overall ok.
But yet teaching my own kids was really tricky cause I’m their parent ... My father was a university professor but found it extra difficult to do our hw with us etc . It doesn’t mean parents now realize how inadequate they are and how difficult it is to teach. Teaching in a classroom is not comparable to teaching my kids. I cringed when I saw those stupid comments. Most parents are trying to keep a roof over their kids heads ffs....

The lack of understanding of how ordinary people live their lives is just staggering. I mean how privileged do you have to be to think that someone can ‘just take four weeks off’ from their job?

We all know the main role of schools isn’t childcare, but the stark truth is that huge numbers of people cannot work if their kids aren’t in school. If they can’t work, they can’t pay their taxes, which means less money for the NHS and public services. They also can’t pay their rent or mortgage, which means more homeless families, or buy sufficient food, which means more hungry children. This is the reality of school closures.

ShandlersWig Clearly you should have factored in a pandemic into your plans when you decided to have children. How irresponsible are you?! No job is worth not being there for your kids.

I’m clearly being sarcastic.

Regardless of a pandemic some parents are just horrified at the thought of having their kids at home for another four weeks.