To think those happy about the new lockdown are usually privileged

[NickVanDyke]

Seen many people on Mumsnet and on other social media borderline happy as soon as a second lockdown was leaked.

Am I missing the memo? So many our going to lose their jobs, homes, mental health.

Not to mention the cost of borrowing all this money that our dc and grandkids will have to repay.

I’m just confused how anyone can be happy about this. To me it’s a disaster.

Also, I'd be interested to see the research that shows that certain categories certainly won't survive if they get covid. All the research I've seen so far showed that the vast majority of people in age all brackets with all manner of serious underlying health conditions survive. I see PP on here frequently claim that so and so that they know "certainly would not survive" and I repeatedly ask for the reference to this type of information and nobody ever seems to be able to provide it.

I don't think anyone is happy about it but some people are just sucking it up while other people are whining and moaning and whipping themselves up into a frenzy about it all. The amount of catastrophising going on, oh this is never going to end, oh what is the point in life anymore if we have to periodically lockdown for a few weeks at a time for the next while, it's all a bit much really.
Rather than people being happy about it I think some people are just more realistic and stoic and some people like to run around screaming about how the sky is falling.

Why the press about 'saving Christmas '.? What about the other 364 days of every year for those left behind by the tattered economy? Pandering to the entitled.
I've got friends unaffected by it all, loving lockdown, decorating, bemoaning their lack of overseas jollies, enjoying their break from work with no thought for the dire consequences for others not in bulletproof jobs. One of them bought a four figure £ handbag-where are you going that necessitates a great outfit these days?!!! Sad.

I'm not happy about it. People are really struggling whether it financial or mentally and I can see another lockdown taking away any hope for them at all. What's to be happy about?

I'm in the so called privileged position as life didn't really change for us apart from the schools closing as we've both worked all the way through and highly unlikely to lose our jobs. Not everyone is an I'm all right jack type of person.

@amusedtodeath1

I don't think anyone is happy about it's just that there's been so much "it's just like flu", "just let it run" idiots calling people names "sheeple", "hysterical" and have used MH, Cancer, Abuse to validate their own reasons for not accepting reality, that everyone is defensive and starting threads about how people are "happy" is just exacerbating the situation. They're NOT happy, they'd have been happier if people had just stuck to the restrictions and a lockdown wasn't needed, but they accept that given the circumstances more restrictions must be put in place to prevent it causing worse misery and economic hardship.

(a) For someone who thinks others are being abusive, who are you to call others "idiots". Oddly, your opinion on anything, never mind Covid, is not the only opinion, nor is it necessarily the correct opinion.

(b) The barely literate ramblings hardly suggest your know much about anything at all.

(c) Victim blaming everyone who, in your opinion, didn't do what they should is hardly helpful, is it? There's a lot of the "it's all the fault of people who didn't stick to the restrictions" going on, but actually it is never as simple as that. Most people kept most of the restrictions most of the time. And it got us nowhere.

@maddiemookins16mum

I just don’t want 4 thousand deaths a day.

4 thousand deaths or 4 thousand Covid deaths?

YABU they are utter twits. To be fair though I WFH, and doing this with kids is really not something I look forward to and is pretty shit, but I'm thankful that I'm not losing my job at the moment (although I don't feel safe in mine either). There is no way of dressing up this shit situation and there are no fall back measures this time around, so I fear it is going to far worse than the spring.

Let's hope people will finally have enough of these desperate approval seeking 'influencers' who spout this rubbish. It isn't helpful.

(b) The barely literate ramblings hardly suggest your know much about anything at all.

Don't you hate it when that happens?

It doesn't have to be one or the other, you can be worried about the virus, long term health impact and rising deaths as well as the economy and the short term and long term financial impact of it.

@AuldSpookySewers

You want to save your business, I want my husband to stay alive long enough to see our primary age D.C. grow up. He will not survive Covid due to his existing medical condition.

That’s why I support a lockdown.

I understand this position but the OP's business being open does not affect anyone else's ability to stay at home if they choose.

The call for a national compulsory lockdown affects EVERYONE, the vast majority of whom are not vulnerable and are ONLY making sacrifices for the benefit of others. But are expected to take the loss of jobs, homes and mental well-being on the chin for fear of being branded "selfish"!

Why should the minority group hold the other to ransom? Tomorrow is promised to no-one, COVID isn't the only thing out there.

Tbh I don’t want any of it to be happening but it is. I’m far from privileged and will possibly lose my home if another lockdown happens, but I also don’t want to see people dying from this disease either

I don’t think anyone wants to be in a lockdown, I think those that are welcoming it are possibly scared, possibly people with underlying conditions or with vulnerable relatives? People have a right to feel what they feel.

I’m not too bothered about it, yes my job is secure but I work as a frontline worker so I’m also at risk. I’m not really for or against it, I just hope it saves some lives and doesn’t end up killing more people in other ways.

This virus is not going away anytime soon and we've had such an appalling example set by certain MPs who have one rule for them and one for us that people are going to find any excuse they can not to comply. That ship has sailed.

We need to find a way to live with this virus and pulling the rug out from underneath our economy is not the way to do it. I am in the fortunate position of being able to ride out the lockdown in a nice house and my income will not be affected one way or another but their are thousands of businesses hanging on by their fingernails. This will be the death knell for many of them.

Speaking of my friend/family group only, it does seem those more secure are the ones who 'want' harsh lockdown measures. I cannot really speak for MN as I don't know the circumstances of posters, but I suspect its very similar on here.

Its usual though. People judge stuff by their own situation. So most who need to work, will be against being unable to work, and those who can do things fine from home and still have a decent life, will be more likely to be for lockdown measures. Some will have multiple high risk family members, and will set their opinions with that in mind also, its not just work situations. Its just human nature really. Which is kind of why I find the endless 'selfish' accusations a bit daft. Everyone is selfish to some degree, and their basis for what 'selfish' means comes from their own circumstances too. To comfortable people scared of the virus for whatever reason, its selfish of others to not want to lockdown. But to those who live hand to mouth and could maybe even lose their homes through another lockdown, its selfish to want more measures. Human nature really.

And yes, I now there will be some outliers, before I get 'not ALL WFH people' or 'I am in a low income job with no savings and want lockdown'. Yes, some will. But I suspect its very much 'the norm' for those who can continue comfortably to be more for restrictions, and those who can't to be against.

Bracing myself for the next wave of posts from smug people about how much they loved lockdown 1.0 and it enabled them to "get in touch with themselves" and spend quality time with their families, baking and working in their gardens etc.

And all the militant introverts banging on about how much they loved not having to see people for months on end.

This kind of shit nearly tipped me over the edge first time around and I'm in the very privileged position of having a job and a home.

Memo to all those of you with no financial worries and no need to work all hours to support kids: a period of dignified silence on your part over the next 3-4 months would be greatly appreciated please.

Honestly. I’m here wasting my early 20s.

Ahaha reading that back, double 'human nature'. Bit OTT, even for me!

Carrying on as we are isn't an alternative either!

100,000 new cases ever day and a predicted 85,000 people dead by March if we don't get cases down.

If cases carry on rising people will lock themselves down and that won't do the economy any good either!

I'm in Tier 1 area and had a letter from the council this morning saying cases are rising, don't mix households indoors at all, try and cut down the number of times you go out. That will affect the economy too, without any measures in place to support businesses.

I'm not happy about a lock down at all but what can we do? We need numbers down so that the Govt's crap track & trace can cope and people need to follow the rules that are put on place!

We are both police so secure jobs.

Lockdown will be awful for us, my Mum had a huge stroke in august and has been in rehab. The visiting has been becoming increasingly hard, I now haven't seen her in 3 weeks and who knows when, if every, I will see her again. Dad is only allowed to visit 1 hr a day but that is first come first served with only 18 people allowed to visit a day on a unit with 40 patients. He is already broken. This lockdown will just devastate him

People who bang on about "saving the NHS" seem to forget that if you destroy the economy, there is no NHS. Because who is going to fund it?

I don’t know which side I belong to. I work in a hospital where COVID has increased by more then 400% in a week, the bed situation is horrific, as it’s is without COVID, people sick with other illnesses as well and we are running out of icu beds I am so frightened if I have a patient who needs an icu bed and there isn’t one, It’s not as easy as create more beds, we’d need more staff to look after these sick patients too.

On the other hand I live alone and not seeing anyone is really affecting my mental health and I’m not a very sociable person! And I worry about business and people not being able to get through this financially.

It’s not about wether we get it eventually or not it’s about if you or a loved one becomes so sick they need hospital treatment and there is no bed for them and they die, this is not just COVID people can get very unwell in other ways and still not survive as there isn’t enough staff to care for us. I really don’t know what the answer is.

I also agree with many on here that 'saving xmas' is..shortsighted at best, and seems t be only for good headlines. Many are more concerned about their jobs and such, than having an xmas dinner with extended family. Don't get me wrong, a family xmas is lovely and I would want one, but other things are more important that the government appear to be ignoring completely.

A big help, that should be quite easy to do too..would be for Boris to acknowledge the problem of many being unable to isolate when they are a contact. The answer to this currently seems to be call those people selfish and pretend its people who are unwilling to do it instead. But lying and calling people grannykillers doesn't make them any more able to do it. It leaves them in the same shitty situation but maybe now feeling a bit of guilt ontop of everything else.

What do you suggest for people who lose their jobs and businesses? What is it you expect them to do? Curl up and rot?

They are called collateral damage and the wealthy find that completely fine as it doesn’t impact them.

Lockdown here in Wales has been generally accepted, and got on with.. i can tell you people in a 'privileged' position are very very thin on the ground.
.. and no, not 'sheeple' just wanting to try something / anything in an attempt to flatline figures. We couldn't carry on just watching figures rise.
Before anyone flames me for being in a 'privileged' position, i've no savings and i earnt £53 last week (self employed) and same next week.

Erm.. My job is secure yes, but only part time (take home £1000 a month) . However, due to DH's overtime being wiped out due to Covid we are atleast £400 short (take home about £1300). I don't own my own house, we pay an extortionate amount of rent and don't qualify for any help. I don't consider us safe/privileged/well off/comfortable but I do agree with a circuit breaker lockdown. Yes, it's shit. I'm not doing the hokey cokey about it though 🙄