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To think those happy about the new lockdown are usually privileged

326 replies

NickVanDyke · 31/10/2020 14:12

Seen many people on Mumsnet and on other social media borderline happy as soon as a second lockdown was leaked.

Am I missing the memo? So many our going to lose their jobs, homes, mental health.

Not to mention the cost of borrowing all this money that our dc and grandkids will have to repay.

I’m just confused how anyone can be happy about this. To me it’s a disaster.

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copernicium · 31/10/2020 14:48

And with partners or family bubble...

billysboy · 31/10/2020 14:48

If a lockdown is announced do you think Laura Kuenssberg will be able to ask if it will apply to Domonic Cummings this time !

amusedtodeath1 · 31/10/2020 14:48

I don't think anyone is happy about it's just that there's been so much "it's just like flu", "just let it run" idiots calling people names "sheeple", "hysterical" and have used MH, Cancer, Abuse to validate their own reasons for not accepting reality, that everyone is defensive and starting threads about how people are "happy" is just exacerbating the situation. They're NOT happy, they'd have been happier if people had just stuck to the restrictions and a lockdown wasn't needed, but they accept that given the circumstances more restrictions must be put in place to prevent it causing worse misery and economic hardship.

hamstersarse · 31/10/2020 14:48

YANBU Op

People who shout and rant on their single mission objective to “save lives” are almost exclusively well off and secure

With no concern for the lives that are lost due to these lockdowns. And that does mean lives, actual lives lost to lockdown, not what they usually try and turn it into as being some vague selfish notion of money over life

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NickVanDyke · 31/10/2020 14:50

@AuldSpookySewers

Shield your husband and you should be supported in doing that.

My business and many others pay for the health care system in taxes. Customers pay VAT which pays for the healthcare system.

It’s not a straightforward choice of lives v economy.

We need an economy to fund health

Lockdowns are too blunt, this will kill off our economy.

The vulnerable may survive covid but die from an underfunded healthcare system later because we crashed our economy due to Covid.

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hamstersarse · 31/10/2020 14:50

@amusedtodeath1

I don't think anyone is happy about it's just that there's been so much "it's just like flu", "just let it run" idiots calling people names "sheeple", "hysterical" and have used MH, Cancer, Abuse to validate their own reasons for not accepting reality, that everyone is defensive and starting threads about how people are "happy" is just exacerbating the situation. They're NOT happy, they'd have been happier if people had just stuck to the restrictions and a lockdown wasn't needed, but they accept that given the circumstances more restrictions must be put in place to prevent it causing worse misery and economic hardship.
Used mental health, cancer and abuse?

USED?

That is truly a repulsive thing to say

RatanPostmaster · 31/10/2020 14:50

I agree with you OP.

Fishfingersandwichplease · 31/10/2020 14:50

Totally agree OPI am another privileged one - both DH and l have got secure jobs, plenty of savings and a nice big house - another lockdown wouldn't hurt or bother us (although dd struggled being out of school for so long last time), but l realise how lucky l am and am trying to do my bit by making regular donations to my local foodbank and helping out a single mum keep her job by helping her out with childcare in the mornings. Feel awful for all those who aren't in as good a position as me especially if we go into another lockdown.

NorthGirl2 · 31/10/2020 14:51

And Yes, people need to shut up about this saving Christmas crap. I would rather keep my job than save Christmas, which I imagine is the same for the majority of people. Christmas is a day spend at home anyway, just this year it will have to be with the household rather than masses of extended family. I'm sure most people can stick that for one year, surely?

kondomeup · 31/10/2020 14:51

I do agree that it's easier for those who are financially secure to endure lockdown and i absolutely feel that any lockdown should be accompanied by really robust financial support. This didn't happen last time, lots of people slipped through the net like casual workers and the self employed.

I am pleased we are going to have a lockdown because we really need it but I do realise that this is coming from a position of job/income security and from being medically vulnerable. I don't have good mental health though and I know that I will suffer greatly in other ways from lockdown.

happygolucy · 31/10/2020 14:52

Some of us are glad of a lockdown because we realise how serious Covid is and we would rather work from home and be safe than continue being forced to work with idiots who don't wear masks. But sure, get mad at anyone who is financially more secure than you. How dare they be happy for themselves.

mollypuss1 · 31/10/2020 14:53

@AuldSpookySewers

You want to save your business, I want my husband to stay alive long enough to see our primary age D.C. grow up. He will not survive Covid due to his existing medical condition.

That’s why I support a lockdown.

If only it were as black and white as that.

Many people will not survive losing their businesses. Suicide rates rise when people cannot feed their families, pay their rents etc. We are on the verge of a huge mental health crisis, but that doesn’t seem to matter, and I say that as someone whose DH would also not survive Covid due to his existing mental health condition.

We have to strike a balance between physical, mental and economic health yet we seem to currently exist in a world where the only thing that matters is Covid, any other illness or death whatever the cause seems irrelevant.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 31/10/2020 14:54

@happygolucy good for you. As long as you're OK, hey?

justanotherneighinparadise · 31/10/2020 14:54

I spoke to someone today while out and about who told me they didn’t think they’d be here at the end of another lockdown, their mental health is so bad. I don’t know this person very well and can only hope they were catastrophising. It’s very worrying though. Many people are close to the edge.

Moondust001 · 31/10/2020 14:55

Or maybe they’re people with family members who are at high risk who are glad that the population are going to be forced to behave more sensibly. Who knows.

Regardless of what everyone else does, if people are genuinely at such high risk, then they shouldn't be mixing with anyone unless they are prepared to take the infection risk. I'm not unsympathetic, and nor do I think that the government should have suspended shielding for those genuinely at risk and who wish to do so. But the only thing that will support those people is total isolation from others, or from anyone not in full PPE. Therefore it makes no bloody difference to them what the rest of us do.

hamstersarse · 31/10/2020 14:55

@happygolucy

Some of us are glad of a lockdown because we realise how serious Covid is and we would rather work from home and be safe than continue being forced to work with idiots who don't wear masks. But sure, get mad at anyone who is financially more secure than you. How dare they be happy for themselves.
Not really understanding the point there.

What do you suggest for people who lose their jobs and businesses? What is it you expect them to do? Curl up and rot?

MeadowHay · 31/10/2020 14:56

I think you're right for the most part OP. Although I am someone who is in a fairly-secure WFH job (albeit low paid - PT and hrly rate is about the real living wage), with a DH who is in a secure, decently paid front line clinical role, who rent below market rate from far wealthier relatives who would always be able to help us out if we ever faced severe difficulty. So, very privileged really. But neither of us want another lockdown at all for various reasons, my mental health being a big factor. In tier 3 as the autumn's come in this very rainy city I am already having a significant exacerbation of my chronic GAD and starting to feel my mood dip more and more often (I have a previous history of depression including self-harm and a suicide attempt). I am very scared for how I will cope and the impact that could have on my toddler.

crazyfrogs · 31/10/2020 14:56

I'm dreading it though will comply with it of course. I am a key worker and more at risk because of it and was advised to shield last time but couldn't without losing my job plus my hours were reduced because of covid as some of the people I care for went to live with relatives for the duration of lockdown or didn't come in to the centre. I have no idea what will happen this time. i have bought my dcs xmas presents already so at least they will have something to open on the day and in their post xmas/early new year birthdays.

NorthGirl2 · 31/10/2020 14:57

Some of us are glad of a lockdown because we realise how serious Covid is and we would rather work from home and be safe than continue being forced to work with idiots who don't wear masks. But sure, get mad at anyone who is financially more secure than you. How dare they be happy for themselves.

Is this a wind up?

You do realise not everyone has a job where they can work from home, don't you?

And even your job may not be that financially secure - it's a domino effect and will affect most industries eventually.

SabrinaTheTeenageBitch · 31/10/2020 14:57

Im incredibly lucky to not have to worry about the financial impact but I feel terrible for those that do. I have a autistic teenager who has just settled back into her routine at school. Lockdown was hideous for her last time and the thought of schools closing fills me with dread. Definitely the privileged few who can face another lockdown without it impacting them financially, mentally or both

Topseyt · 31/10/2020 14:57

@AuldSpookySewers

You want to save your business, I want my husband to stay alive long enough to see our primary age D.C. grow up. He will not survive Covid due to his existing medical condition.

That’s why I support a lockdown.

Same with some of my close family. We still don't want another lockdown.

I totally agree with you, OP. Wrecking people's livelihoods and mental and physical health (that includes more than just Covid 19 issues).

There certainly are some on here and on social media who are positively salivating at the thought of another lockdown. Yes, I should think most of them are fairly privileged.

jessstan1 · 31/10/2020 14:58

Nick, I think people who are happy or indifferent about another lockdown feel that way about themselves but it doesn't mean they are unaware of the difficulties others face and would help if they could.

IcedPurple · 31/10/2020 14:59

@happygolucy

Some of us are glad of a lockdown because we realise how serious Covid is and we would rather work from home and be safe than continue being forced to work with idiots who don't wear masks. But sure, get mad at anyone who is financially more secure than you. How dare they be happy for themselves.
So if doctors, teachers, delivery drivers, maintenance workers etc decide they'd be 'safe' not working at all, you would of course support that?
maddiemookins16mum · 31/10/2020 14:59

I just don’t want 4 thousand deaths a day.

SabrinaTheTeenageBitch · 31/10/2020 15:01

Btw those of us who are concerned about the impact another lockdown will have are in the majority also concerned about the health implications of coronavirus. My daughter as well as being severely autistic has cerebral palsy so I'm more than a little worried. I was forced into a situation where I had to weigh up her risk factors vs her mental health. Anyone who thinks its black and white for or against lockdown really are privileged