Buying lanyards when not required

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Today I saw a friend and the mask wearing conversation came up. She said how she hates them and makes her sweaty and she would have to wear a lot for the activities she does with her dcs, soft play etc
She then said she's purchased a lanyard on ebay to stop people asking why she won't wear one.
I said oh I didn't know you were exempt too ( I am which she knows) she replied. I'm not. But if I can buy a lanyard why not saves having to wear them shitty things!

I felt really angered but I know if I was to say anything it would fall in deaf ears.

Fwiw I am exempt as i have panic attacks wearing one. Due to an ex repeatedly suffocating me with his hand across my mouth. However I can sometimes bear one for very short periods if I'm in an OK mindest and I do always try. ( in case anyone asks),

I also have asthma but wear mask

This really pisses me off. Totally undermines the lanyard and means that people will start responding negatively to those genuinely using them.

Blue badges don't stop some people questioning others, saying they don't look disabled, must be faking it or they shouldn't have one etc. It would be no different with an official exemption card.

Did anyone really think the lanyard wouldn't be abused by others who don't need it?

It's what happens. Those with additional needs campaign to get things to help give them some quality of life, and others demand use because it suits their needs.
There's people in society who moan about where the mobility parking spaces are, the blue badge scheme in general, and why shouldn't I use it because I have a baby?
The radar key is massively mis-used because it's easy to buy.
Accessible spaces on buses - the use for parents came after it had been campaigned and introduced for those with disabilities.

I could go on.

@Underhisi

Blue badges don't stop some people questioning others, saying they don't look disabled, must be faking it or they shouldn't have one etc. It would be no different with an official exemption card.

You're right. I've got a blue vadge and do get looks from people, only one person has ever said anything, so the maskers are certainly a lot more, shall we say, vocal.

Oh FFS!!! Blue BADGE!!!! I certainly do t have the other!!! and if it was blue, there'd be a problem!!!!

Bit early in the morning for that Phil!!

@canigooutyet

Bit early in the morning for that Phil!!

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What are you typing so much, Phil that your autocorrect did not de-snag that one?

@AnneLovesGilbert

Since no one can ask her why she’s not wearing a mask, who’ll know she’s not exempt?

Loads of people don’t wear a mask. Some wear lanyards, some don’t. Some of their lanyards are for a reason, some aren’t. The risk is the same, to them and others around them, whether or not their reason is “valid”. Not sure why you’re so bothered. If you get it and pass it on it’s irrelevant that your reason is “real” and your friends isn’t.

You genuinely can't see a difference? Run it by some friends and maybe one of them can help you with that.

@GlacindaTheTroll

What are you typing so much, Phil that your autocorrect did not de-snag that one?

My defence is "autocorrect is switched off on my phone your honour". 😇

@Duggeehugs82

I also have asthma but wear mask

Thank you for doing so. But please remember that just because you're able to, others with the same condition might not. Same goes for all health conditions where mask wearing is concerned.

Do none mask wearing store workers get grief from customers?

Do those who think everyone should wear one regardless think they should be sacked or something?

Personally I'm reassured when I walk into a store and see a staff member without a mask.

@yawnsvillex

Masks don't work. I've never been so ill since wearing one, constant bastard cold. So now I don't wear one as it makes me sick. Is that good enough or do you want proof?

What a load of rubbish. There is scientific proof to show that they DO work to reduce Covid transmission. Surgeons etc have worn them for donkeys years to prevent infection during operations. You're just making excuses and spreading misinformation. Not clever. What kind of illness do you think your mask is giving you? 🙄

But please remember that just because you're able to, others with the same condition might not.

Anyone with asthma who isn't in the throes of a severe asthma attack can wear a mask.

At least the anti-masters are honest about why they don't wear them!

@Mistigri

But please remember that just because you're able to, others with the same condition might not.

Anyone with asthma who isn't in the throes of a severe asthma attack can wear a mask.

At least the anti-masters are honest about why they don't wear them!

People who can't wear masks aren't dishonest. Neither are we selfish, or not trying hard enough, as is often levelled at us on here.

You cannot know how every individual person's health conditions affect them or their ability to mask up. It's impossible for you - or anyone, regardless of qualifications - to do so.

@canigooutyet

Do none mask wearing store workers get grief from customers?

Do those who think everyone should wear one regardless think they should be sacked or something?

Personally I'm reassured when I walk into a store and see a staff member without a mask.

I've never ever had any grief. Not once. In fact I've had people ask me if they can help

However. My illness and disability is incredibly visible.

I'm in France and not aware of exemptions. All the shops I've been in say that masks are obligatory and everyone in the shop is wearing a mask. Admittedly some are not wearing them correctly but I suppose that's harder to police. My BP was spiking to 200/120 wearing a mask in summer but I just had to get outside quickly when I started feeling unwell.

Exactly @MountainDweller it's a peculiar British thing where we are all so I
Ill we have to look to excuses not to wear a mask. Try not wearing a mask in China, look at the complete lack of unhealthy people across Asia who can all wear masks. Across Europe there are not masses of people too ill to wear a mask unlike my local Sainsbury's which seem to employ the most unhealthy people where a third seem to magically have a condition that stops them wearing a mask.

Sorry I am not buying this. Someone not wearing a mask makes it more likely others will get ill. If they can't wear a mask then they can't go where they are required. Otherwise you are prioritizing their rights over the rights of wider society. Surgeons have to wear masks they don't get a choice.

"Surgeons have to wear masks they don't get a choice."

Since my severely disabled child is never going to be a surgeon that is not going to be problem.

There are exemptions in France. There will be exemptions in all countries that don't have appalling human rights. Those who like that sort of thing can always go and live in one of them.

@Thegentleman

In a very regulated and monitored environment masks "might" have limited benefit of preventing the spread of viruses more so in people with a cough or a sneeze. A clean mask of a certain standard must be be put on then hands thoroughly gelled or washed. The mask should be cover the mouth and nose. The mask should not be touched at all and if it is touched the hands should be washed or gelled again. I have not seen a good level of compliance of good mask wearing in ANY public place from the start. In real life it's impossible to get people to do this. In real world conditions they are doing more harm than good. Go in to a public place e.g. supermarket and this is what you see on a widespread basis.

• a dirty cloth mask worn multiple times put on.
• a single use surgical mask reused several times and not disposed off after every use.

-hands not cleaned after putting masks on. -masks under noses -Masks under Chins

• people pulling masks up or down when speaking to people

-people constantly touching and adjusting masks and not cleaning hands.

• people storing masks in dirty places such as car side pockets, car floors, glove boxes etc.

-People wearing masks with unfiltered vents on the front that send a blast of breath through the hole into the air. In restaurants and cafes look around you people actually play with their masks after eating and waiting for the bill etc like pacifier running the masks thorough their fingers. They don't even notice they are doing it. This is not lies this is real world conditions, these masks are harbouring vast amounts of germs, viruses and bacteria. When these are touched then other things touched the virus will spread e.g door handles etc. If these masks where swabbed to check for growth of all kinds of organisms the results would be shocking. If you are that person that wears a clean masks stored in a clean bag/container , covering nose and face and never adjust mask without recleaning hands everytime well done you you are in the minority. Many people I know openly admit they use their mask for several weeks without washing. This cant be good for the wearers health. Masks/face coverings are simply not working in the way they are being worn.

This With bells on

"- a dirty cloth mask worn multiple times put on.

• a single use surgical mask reused several times and not disposed off after every use."

There's no way you can tell if someone is doing that.

Masks under noses and on the chin are rife here in Brussels outside, but not in supermarkets as it's the law to wear them properly. They would not be allowed in otherwise.

"If you are that person that wears a clean masks stored in a clean bag/container , covering nose and face and never adjust mask without recleaning hands everytime well done you you are in the minority."

I don't quite do this always, but I did get the memo about keeping it iin a plastic bag. I obviously cover mouth and nose and I agree that it's not practical for most people to wash their hands each time they've touched the mask. However, most of us carry hand sanitiser now so can use it at least some of the times we're touching the mask.
Also, the germs are on the outside of the mask in this case and would not be passing on to our mouths. Yes, we could transfer from the outside of the mask to other surfaces, but other people who might be touching those surfaces are supposed to sanitise their hands regularly anyway.

The CMO for Wales said it was better not to weak a mask than to wear one and then put it in your pocket. He soon changed his mind of course. I saw a friend who's a nurse and very vocal about Covid and what people should and shouldn't do, put his mask in his pocket...

"Many people I know openly admit they use their mask for several weeks without washing. This cant be good for the wearers health."

I don't know anyone who does this. Everyone I know washes them after one wear or one day. I personally hand wash them, which my friend told me off for because the government here advises washing in 60 degrees water.

I work in pharmaceuticals and there are parts of our site where you have to garb up with a hooded suit and a face mask...pre Covid!!

Now with Covid we all HAVE to wear a mask in work at all times...over 700 staff on site and no one is exempt...funny that!