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Buying lanyards when not required

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Family1st2020 · 30/10/2020 00:27

Today I saw a friend and the mask wearing conversation came up. She said how she hates them and makes her sweaty and she would have to wear a lot for the activities she does with her dcs, soft play etc
She then said she's purchased a lanyard on ebay to stop people asking why she won't wear one.
I said oh I didn't know you were exempt too ( I am which she knows) she replied. I'm not. But if I can buy a lanyard why not saves having to wear them shitty things!

I felt really angered but I know if I was to say anything it would fall in deaf ears.

Fwiw I am exempt as i have panic attacks wearing one. Due to an ex repeatedly suffocating me with his hand across my mouth. However I can sometimes bear one for very short periods if I'm in an OK mindest and I do always try. ( in case anyone asks),

OP posts:

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 30/10/2020 14:18

@yawnsvillex

"Masks don't work..." "do you want proof?"

Yes please, I would love the numerous peer review journals that prove that masks don't work.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 30/10/2020 14:20

@StarCat2020 yes you are correct. Just because someone has a diagnosis of let's say asthma, doesn't mean that they are automatically exempt. Some people with asthma can and do wear masks. They would need to actually be unable to wear the mask due to a condition to actually be exempt.

QueenStromba · 30/10/2020 14:31

@movingonup20

The question I want answered is why nearly all the teenagers around here seem to be "exempt" when questioned by the bus driver they claim to have asthma, what all of them??? Obviously there's a hidden epidemic of severe asthma around here that definitely should be investigated by public health people, it's unusual kind that only affect young people not travelling with their parents???

The government I think need to issue exemption cards, no card you wear a mask

And it would have to be really bad asthma, I'm frequently mildly hypoxic just sitting on the sofa and I cope fine wearing a mask.

StarCat2020 · 30/10/2020 14:36

@Northernsoulgirl45
Thank you for your comment, what you say makes sense

ladylunchalot · 30/10/2020 14:40

I wish a different lanyard could have been designed for non mask wearers as the sunflower lanyard has been taken over.
My son has autism and epilepsy and it really helped having him wear the sunflower lanyard when in the airport. His disabilities are hidden but he does need extra help and support which this lanyard provided.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 30/10/2020 14:42

Thank you @StarCat2020

gingerwhingerwife · 30/10/2020 14:44

I'm just back from Lakeside. The majority of people were wearing masks. But a good 50 percent had them under their noses or chins

Wherehavetheteletubbiesgone · 30/10/2020 14:54

@pastandpresent

The problem is, that the government says you don't need to wear one if you have a reason not to, and you don't need to explain why. There's a loophole. Of course people take advantage. I am not an anti- masker. I wear one myself. But you can't really get angry for anyone not wearing it, though I can see why people who have legitimate reason getting annoyed by someone who abuse it.

I am foreign, and there was an article from my government why everyone, including people who has disability still need to wear them, including children.

I just think mask wearing won't work in England.

Absolutely right it is a typical British thing to work around authority and rules. The government should stop trying to add in ways around the rules, China didn't, Japan obviously has a lot of people with no panic attacks because their compliance on masks was high. Why can government just make rules without exception for special interest groups. (and i include sikh motorcycle helmet wearing in the UK too in this) Wearing a mask is a zero sum game you exercising your right not to wear a mask increases the chances of me catching the disease (therefore reducing my rights). For what its worth masks give me increased levels of panic i simply choose to not go out as much but if i'm out i force myself to wear one.

FairFridaythe13th · 30/10/2020 14:56

The masks I bought are really hot and hard to breathe through - but I still flipping well wear one! I heard a man today telling his colleague that he wouldn't wear one because 'I feel stupid' (great excuse there).

Most people in our local supermarket do wear them (no-one in the small corner store opposite bothers to) but there are quite a few who dangle them off their chin or under their nose, so I don't know why they bother.

Ive seen a few people with badges saying 'I am exempt' and am fully expecting to see some that say 'I dont wanna'. I have a few asthmatics in the family and they all manage with masks.

OpheIiaBaIls · 30/10/2020 15:10

@StarCat2020

I am exempt but still wear a mask because I can This statement confuses me slightly though but it could be because I have misunderstood the rules.

I thought that exemption was dependent on NOT being able to put on, wear or take off a mask?

If a person can wear a mask then how can they be exempt (NOT wear one)?

Please feel free to come and correct my misunderstanding.

You're absolutely correct. If you can wear a mask, you're not exempt.

Spikeyball · 30/10/2020 15:22

"Why can government just make rules without exception for special interest groups."

It is obvious that are some people who cannot wear one.

FairFridaythe13th · 30/10/2020 15:24

Not being able to wear one isn't really a 'special interest group'. Not wearing one because you just don't want to is another matter completely.

Spikeyball · 30/10/2020 15:27

There aren't mask exemptions for special interest groups.

TheFairyGarden · 30/10/2020 15:30

The government I think need to issue exemption cards, no card you wear a mask

I agree. Those sunflower lanyards are useless as anybody can get them. They were giving them out to anybody who asked for one in Tesco

Spikeyball · 30/10/2020 15:34

I would think the government hasn't done it because of the time and money that is going to cost.

Siepie · 30/10/2020 15:41

@ladylunchalot

I wish a different lanyard could have been designed for non mask wearers as the sunflower lanyard has been taken over. My son has autism and epilepsy and it really helped having him wear the sunflower lanyard when in the airport. His disabilities are hidden but he does need extra help and support which this lanyard provided.

I wish this too.

My friend's DS is autistic and often wears a sunflower lanyard. He's proud of it and says it show's he's "not a naughty boy". Recently my friend's had several strangers tell her that her DS shouldn't wear a lanyard and a mask, because they think the lanyard just shows you're exempt.

2020canfuckitself · 30/10/2020 15:52

As long as you're wearing a mask you should be okay 🙂

I'm exempt, although I'm perfectly healthy and I don't look like I am exempt. I've had funny looks but I don't care

trappedsincesundaymorn · 30/10/2020 16:02

@Lockdowner13

Are there really this many people that can’t wear a mask?! I honestly don’t see many reasons why people can’t wear one.

Some epileptics can't wear them.

PhilCornwall1 · 30/10/2020 16:02

@Lockdowner13

What are the reasons? I can see that someone who has a mental or physical disability might find putting them on tricky or might not understand the purpose.

I can see that some people who have suffered severe trauma might not cope with a mask.

I can also see difficulties with deaf people and lip reading etc.

What are the other reasons?

I can't wear a mask and have no mental or what you would class physical disability.

I have Trigeminal Neuralgia and any pressure on the side of my face affected causes excruciating pain. There is one condition for you. It's not physical in the sense you can see it. My face shows no problem through the condition whatsoever.

caringcarer · 30/10/2020 16:50

If people are too Ill to wear either a mask or vizor maybe they should not go into shops, post offices or other indoor spaces. Instead stay home and order shopping online or get volunteer to bring you stuff. In other countries that is what happens. You wear a mask or cannot enter the shop. Far too many people claim not to be able to wear mask when most could if they had the right mind set. GP's should give exemption like with blue parking passes not buy your own on eBay.

PhilCornwall1 · 30/10/2020 17:16

If people are too Ill to wear either a mask or vizor maybe they should not go into shops, post offices or other indoor spaces.

I'm not as you put it too ill to enter a shop with the condition I have. Not being able to wear one, doesn't mean you can't live your life because you are too ill.

What a very narrow minded view.

Starlightstarbright1 · 30/10/2020 17:21

I read and article today about the huge difference in masks - the worst let 93 % of particles through.. so it could vary greatly.

dottiedodah · 30/10/2020 17:32

Most people here ( South Coast)seem to be wearing a mask ATM.Seen a few people without ,but would never challenge them! Anything where there is a loophole, is open to misuse sadly.Like anything really 99% of people will play by the rules .but a few will be "clever enough" to avoid them! Arrogant and cocky ,and will be the first to wonder why Covid infections are not going down!

Spikeyball · 30/10/2020 17:40

"GP's should give exemption like with blue parking passes"

GPs don't issue blue badges.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 30/10/2020 18:22

@caringcarer you win the most inappropriate user name. Seriously are you suggesting that autistic children and adults shouldn't leave the house if they cannot tolerate a mask.

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