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Buying lanyards when not required

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Family1st2020 · 30/10/2020 00:27

Today I saw a friend and the mask wearing conversation came up. She said how she hates them and makes her sweaty and she would have to wear a lot for the activities she does with her dcs, soft play etc
She then said she's purchased a lanyard on ebay to stop people asking why she won't wear one.
I said oh I didn't know you were exempt too ( I am which she knows) she replied. I'm not. But if I can buy a lanyard why not saves having to wear them shitty things!

I felt really angered but I know if I was to say anything it would fall in deaf ears.

Fwiw I am exempt as i have panic attacks wearing one. Due to an ex repeatedly suffocating me with his hand across my mouth. However I can sometimes bear one for very short periods if I'm in an OK mindest and I do always try. ( in case anyone asks),

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Northernsoulgirl45 · 30/10/2020 18:26

Although I do agree that exemptions should be applied for.

OpheIiaBaIls · 30/10/2020 18:28

@caringcarer

If people are too Ill to wear either a mask or vizor maybe they should not go into shops, post offices or other indoor spaces. Instead stay home and order shopping online or get volunteer to bring you stuff. In other countries that is what happens. You wear a mask or cannot enter the shop. Far too many people claim not to be able to wear mask when most could if they had the right mind set. GP's should give exemption like with blue parking passes not buy your own on eBay.
I expect you think that people with no legs could walk if only they had the right mind set, eh?

I'm not 'ill'. Lots of people who are exempt aren't ill. But we all have to earn a living and use public transport, and enter public places. We don't really have a choice. I'm terribly afraid that 'some random on Mumsnet doesn't want me to leave my house' won't be enough for my employer to let me stay at home on full pay, especially when the government has set out the law regarding exemptions. Sorry, but you don't get to make up laws because you don't like the current ones.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/10/2020 18:32

I'm in Belgium and there's no talk of these exemptions. There are some people who don't wear masks because they don't want to and they don't follow rules, but really medical exemptions are not a thing here.

OhMsBeliever · 30/10/2020 18:36

GP's should give exemptions? What a waste of their time. Apart from when I went to the GP to ask for a referral for my son for his autism/adhd diagnosis he hasn't seen a doctor since he was a baby. They wouldn't have a clue what his needs are.

OpheIiaBaIls · 30/10/2020 18:40

@Gwenhwyfar

I'm in Belgium and there's no talk of these exemptions. There are some people who don't wear masks because they don't want to and they don't follow rules, but really medical exemptions are not a thing here.
I find it very hard to believe that nobody in Belgium has trigeminal neuralgia, sensory issues, trauma from rape or any of the myriad other conditions which make mask wearing impossible. Perhaps at least some of the people you see without masks are unable to wear them rather than simply won't?
ramblingsonthego · 30/10/2020 18:52

@canigooutyet

Isn't the main reason why theatre staff wear masks is to protect them against any potential blood spray?

Tesco released the lanyards before CV for hidden disabilities. But just like anything accessible everyone feels they are entitled to use it because it suits them and screw the people who the whatever was designed for.

I'd be blunt and tell her I hope all these activities clock on and report her so she can be fined.

No, theatre staff mainly wear them to protect the patient. When you have an open body cavity on the table you don't want any other bodily substances falling in!
Spikeyball · 30/10/2020 18:58

"I'm in Belgium and there's no talk of these exemptions. There are some people who don't wear masks because they don't want to and they don't follow rules, but really medical exemptions are not a thing here."

No learning disability and autism in Belgium then?

Happyheartlovelife · 30/10/2020 19:32

I think it's really sad for the sunflower lanyard. I've had one for over 18 months now. I wore one in tesco way before COVID. Due to having something which means I have to be injected. I have medical bracelets. But have one for when I went shopping

They worked really hard and at the beginning of lockdown I was so excited. Because beforehand. Most didn't even know what they stood for. So it was really good to see it getting the recollection it deserved.

However it's all shot to shit now.

Happyheartlovelife · 30/10/2020 19:44

@Lockdowner13

What are the reasons? I can see that someone who has a mental or physical disability might find putting them on tricky or might not understand the purpose.

I can see that some people who have suffered severe trauma might not cope with a mask.

I can also see difficulties with deaf people and lip reading etc.

What are the other reasons?

I have a feeding tube.

It comes from my stomach. Out my nose and hooks behind my ear. I can't get over over the tube. Nor does it hook on. So mine is twofold

Gwenhwyfar · 30/10/2020 20:58

"No learning disability and autism in Belgium then?"

Yes, of course, but not seen as reasons not to wear masks. Ditto asthma.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/10/2020 21:00

"I can also see difficulties with deaf people and lip reading etc."

Their difficulty is with other people wearing the mask, not wearing it themselves.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/10/2020 21:02

"I find it very hard to believe that nobody in Belgium has trigeminal neuralgia, sensory issues, trauma from rape or any of the myriad other conditions which make mask wearing impossible."

I didn't say that though, did I? I said exemptions are not really 'a thing' here as they are in the UK.

"Perhaps at least some of the people you see without masks are unable to wear them rather than simply won't?"

Nope. They all have them somewhere convenient ready to put on for in case a police officer is nearby.

ladyamy42069 · 30/10/2020 21:35

I'd like proof, please. I don'd paticularly like wearing a mask- nobody does.

ladyamy42069 · 30/10/2020 21:37

@yawnsvillex

Masks don't work. I've never been so ill since wearing one, constant bastard cold. So now I don't wear one as it makes me sick. Is that good enough or do you want proof?
yes, please.
ladyamy42069 · 30/10/2020 21:45

@Whirlwind14

Selfish pricks
got it in one.
Spikeyball · 30/10/2020 21:50

No learning disability and autism in Belgium then?"

Yes, of course, but not seen as reasons not to wear masks. Ditto asthma.

I"m guessing you have no experience of severe learning disability and autism because if you did you would know what a ridiculous statement that was.

LivingMyBestLifeNOT · 30/10/2020 21:59

I do not understand this.
I noticed in a FB photo the other week my auntie had a sunflower lanyard and I questioned it. she has COPD so is exempt. Surely if you have breathing issues you would wear one.....
I also saw 3 families in Aldi the other day without face masks and the parent had a lanyard. One parent had 5 kids that I counted, I felt very confused...

poshme · 30/10/2020 22:03

I have a family member with ongoing breathing difficulties.
They're exempt (when they wear a mask they can't get enough oxygen due to struggling to breathe and they've passed out twice as a result- their SATs levels are always dangerously low)

To look at, they look fine.

@caringcarer you say they shouldn't go anywhere inside where they might have to wear a mask. Like the doctor? The hospital? You're really saying that they should never be allowed to go shopping?

poshme · 30/10/2020 22:04

@LivingMyBestLifeNOT my relative struggles to breathe without a mask.
The mask makes it harder for them.

Mistigri · 30/10/2020 22:16

The whole exemption thing is just an invitation not to wear one if you don't fancy it.

In most other European countries where masks are mandated, they have to be worn by everyone.

MajesticWhine · 30/10/2020 22:26

I am not impressed by all of these exemptions, there seem to be too many. Although severe autism or severe disability seems reasonable. Also very unimpressed by all the people I saw today on London underground with their mask resting on their chin.

Spikeyball · 30/10/2020 22:56

"In most other European countries where masks are mandated, they have to be worn by everyone."

Most European countries have exemptions because there are some people who obviously cannot wear a mask and other countries also have people with those conditions.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/10/2020 23:54

@Spikeyball

No learning disability and autism in Belgium then?"

Yes, of course, but not seen as reasons not to wear masks. Ditto asthma.

I"m guessing you have no experience of severe learning disability and autism because if you did you would know what a ridiculous statement that was.

I'm not sharing my own opinion. I'm reporting on what I hear about where I live.
NRatched · 31/10/2020 00:01

@PicsInRed

A notable minority of teens say "I'm exempt" and older adults walk around with their internet lanyard. Why aren't they wearing faceshieds then, if they truly can't wear a mask? Because they just don't want to.

General compliance is going to rapidly fall apart.

Why aren't they wearing faceshieds then, if they truly can't wear a mask? Because they just don't want to.

I imagine the reason for this is faceshields are pretty useless on their own. So wearing one would just be for show, rather than actually helping anything, so..its a bit pointless?

Why would people want others to use faceshields when they don't do anything? To make some people feel a bit safer, despite not actually being safer?

Spikeyball · 31/10/2020 00:20

"I'm not sharing my own opinion. I'm reporting on what I hear about where I live."

Masks do not need to be worn if a medical condition makes it impossible for someone to wear on. It is impossible for some people with a severe learning disability or autism to wear one.